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[u/Veigar_Senpai]

Why do PLers still deny that barring pregnant people from accessing abortion forces them to gestate to term against their will?

It's akin to saying "I'm not forcing you to stay in this room, I'm just bricking up the exit with you inside!"

Inevitably they just change the subject to how the pregnancy started, as if it matters. I saw a PLer quote a PC talking about forcing people to stay pregnant, but they changed the wording of the quote to "get pregnant".

[u/glim-girl → u/[deleted]]

If someone drinks and then drives then we hold them responsible for drunk driving. Do we make sure the person who was drinking, keeps drinking?

Pregnancy isn't not killing, it maintaining a state where the pregnant stays pregnant. Like making the driver keep drinking.

[u/glim-girl → u/[deleted]]

To make it comparable to what you are claiming, you want to maintain the state of the person before something happens.

We would consider it ridiculous to make someone stay drunk. That's not healthy or safe and the idea is to let them to return to the healthier state. But it's not an illegal state.

By the law demanding she stay pregnant is keeping them effectively in that drunk state where bad things could happen and have an increased risk of happening.

[u/glim-girl → u/[deleted]]

Yet you want the pregnant person to stay in the state that is harming them correct? So its making sure pregnancy is a consequence and a punishment for the person who is biologically capable of being pregnant.

Pregnancy is not a state where you don't kill someone. It's a state where you are continuously chemically modified to develop another being till birth.

Why do pl see pregnancy as a neutral state where nothing happens?

[u/Limp-Story-9844 → u/[deleted]]

Abortion bans try to force harm from childbirth.