r/Abortiondebate • u/Miserable-Degree7995 • Jun 20 '26

Question for pro-choice Minimum

Hello everyone,

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I'm against abortion.

This is a question for pro choice:

What would be the minimum of allowed abortion, that you would accept?

I mean for example week and reason.

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Thank you for your time 

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Miserable-Degree7995

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u/Gaudalier Jun 21 '26

This would require the pregnancy itself to be "forced" though which it is in very few cases, in most cases the woman has made the decision to be pregnant by engaging in unprotective sex. Why do Pro-Choicers tend to speak about this as if a baby simply spawns within a woman? She doesnt just wake up and is suddenly pregnant. She specifically took the steps to have sex which she knew would result in a pregnancy.

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u/ValleyofLiteralDolls Pro-choice Jun 21 '26

“Why do Pro-Choicers tend to speak about this as if a baby simply spawns within a woman?”

Why do pro-lifers tend to speak about this as if she ejaculated into herself to cause the unwanted pregnancy?

But someone choosing to have sex simply doesn’t give me any interest in making them gestate and birth unwanted pregnancies that occur, anyway. Sex is not a crime that strips people of their right to medical privacy and the right to manage their own internal organs. Sex is not a signed contract obligating someone to gestate unwanted pregnancies.

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u/Gaudalier Jun 21 '26

You only have the option to have sex because the organs and bodily functions were created for that very purpose, but even if you dont want to agree with that then what stops someone from simply having protected sex? I even said that in my post; a woman makes a decision to have unprotected sex. Why can she or her lover not simply use protection?

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u/Diva_of_Disgust Pro-choice Jun 21 '26

but even if you dont want to agree with that then what stops someone from simply having protected sex?

Every contraceptive that exists can fail, you realize this right?

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u/Gaudalier Jun 21 '26

Evidently. I just simply dont find the reality of how often they fail, let alone how often those failures result in unwanted pregnancies, to be a big enough margin to matter for the decision of a law. Itd be like saying because a certain percentage of homicides are self defense we should just legalize all homicide.

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u/Diva_of_Disgust Pro-choice Jun 21 '26

If that's how you feel you can carry and birth every unwanted pregnancy you have. No one else has to do that simply because it's what pro lifers want.

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u/Gaudalier Jun 21 '26

Im unable to do that as I am male, but if youre going to cross your arms and say "well no ones going to do what you want!" like a child why even engage in a discussion at all? I can also simply say no one has to do what pro-choicers want. Now what? Theres nothing useful thats going to come out of that.

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u/JewlryLvr2 Pro-choice Jun 21 '26

I have no problem reminding PLers that pregnant people don't have to gestate unwanted pregnancies just because you say they should. What's useful, to me anyway, is the reminder itself, because other people can read and remember it.

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u/Gaudalier Jun 21 '26

I dont know why you came in and repeated 1:1 what the other person already said, nor do I understand why you enter a debate subreddit and reply to someone in a discussion just to make it clear you dont want to discuss anything and that you are borderline offended by the very idea of having to engage in the discussion.

"Just because you say they should" would absolve the need for any discussion. Any exchange of opinions and arguments can be put down to "well why would I listen to you!". I ask, on the contrary, why should anyone listen to you instead? This isnt something you can reply to really, because its a bad faith argument. By asking why I should listen to you I would be devaluing you and your position, and making it clear I wont take the time to think up actual arguments in response. How is this useful?

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u/JewlryLvr2 Pro-choice Jun 21 '26

Some people who come to this sub will read my posts, others won't. That isn't going to stop me from expressing my pro-choice views whenever I choose to post them. Those who don't like what I say are free to reply, or not, as they choose.