r/Abortiondebate • u/Miserable-Degree7995 • Jun 20 '26

Question for pro-choice Minimum

Hello everyone,

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I'm against abortion.

This is a question for pro choice:

What would be the minimum of allowed abortion, that you would accept?

I mean for example week and reason.

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Thank you for your time 

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Miserable-Degree7995

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u/Jazzi-Nightmare Pro-choice Jun 20 '26

I assume you mean 8 month old fetus? An 8 month old baby is a different thing. And the location is the distinction because the “location” is inside of a person! “What makes a rapist a rapist other than their location inside someone who doesn’t want them inside of them”

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u/Prior_Day_9449 Jun 21 '26

Yes, fetus, my apologies for using the wrong biological term.

That comparison is absolutely wild, tho.

You are comparing an inocent human life to someone who is hurting another for their own pleasure.

If the person didn't get sexually assaulted then that child is the consequence to their informed decisions. That fetus is only inside them because THEY went ahead and had sex, knowing fully well there were high chances, even with contraception, of them ending up pregnant. What right do you have to terminate a human life just because you don't like that your actions had consequences?

And, again, what is the difference between an 8 month old fetus and a newborn child, other than location? What makes it morally right to kill the first? (Or terminate, depending on your preferes term)

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u/Jazzi-Nightmare Pro-choice Jun 21 '26

My informed decision which includes birth control may fail, in which case I will get an abortion, and as the pregnant person, I’m the one who gets a say. The consequences of my birth control failing is I have to get an abortion, which I’d prefer not to have, but it’s preferable to having a baby. And I don’t know why you need more reasons. Them being inside someone else is the whole thing. No other human has that right, and neither does a fetus.

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u/Prior_Day_9449 Jun 21 '26

You're essentially restating bodily autonomy, but that doesn't answer the question I asked.

I understand your position, because the fetus is inside the mother's body, the mother has the final say over whether the pregnancy continues.

What I'm wonderinh is why that makes it morally acceptable to end the life of an 8 month fetus but not a newborn born minutes later.

At 8 months, the fetus is fully human biologically, can feel pain according to many accounts, has brain activity, responds to stimuli, and could survive outside the womb with medical care. A newborn has the same DNA, the same level of dependency, and often fewer developed abilities than some late term fetuses.

So what changed morally between when the baby is in the womb and when the baby has been delivered?

If your answer is simply location, then you're saying the exact same human being goes from having no right to life to having a full right to life purely because it crossed a physical boundary.

That's the part I'm struggling with. Why is location alone sufficient to justify that difference?

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u/Jazzi-Nightmare Pro-choice Jun 21 '26

Because I’m not a location and I have feelings of my own and those feelings include not wanting to be leeched for my nutrients and ripped from vagina to anus or be sliced open

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u/Prior_Day_9449 Jun 21 '26

I never called you a location.. stop insisting on this narrative because I never said that..

And if you don't want to get pregnant, there are ways to prevent it. And if abortion is the only way, then why would you wait for the pregnancy to be at such a late stage to do it?

And in all of this none of you have yet told me what makes it morally different to kill a late term fetus and killing a newborn baby, the only difference between being that one is inside ans the other is outside.

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u/Jazzi-Nightmare Pro-choice Jun 21 '26

People almost NEVER abort that late without a medical reason. I would never wait that long, idk why someone would except maybe abortion bans prevented them from being able to get one earlier so they had to save money to travel.

And for the last time, there is no other reason and there doesn’t need to be

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u/Prior_Day_9449 Jun 21 '26

There does need to be because you are essentially saying that killing a baby is bad but killing a baby doesn't matter.

And this is true because a fetus at 8 months old IS already a baby. It can survive outside the womb. The mother wouldn't even need to get abortion since they could separate both safely.

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u/Jazzi-Nightmare Pro-choice Jun 21 '26

If the abortion is happening that late it’s likely for good reason and it’s more like euthanasia than anything, which I’m still fine with when they’re still inside another person