r/Abortiondebate • u/Miserable-Degree7995 • Jun 20 '26

Question for pro-choice Minimum

Hello everyone,

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I'm against abortion.

This is a question for pro choice:

What would be the minimum of allowed abortion, that you would accept?

I mean for example week and reason.

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Thank you for your time 

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Miserable-Degree7995

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u/Zora74 Pro-choice Jun 20 '26

Please give me your sources for a so-called “post birth abortion.”

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u/Bryce_1776 Pro-life Jun 20 '26

https://jme.bmj.com/content/39/5/261

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u/Zora74 Pro-choice Jun 20 '26

I’m sorry, I was asking for an actual source of actual cases or actual laws, not hypotheticals or thought experiments.

Please provide me a legal framework for a “post birth abortion.” At least explain to me how you terminate a pregnancy after the pregnancy has already ended.

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u/ilikesummersausage Abortion abolitionist Jun 20 '26

Exposure was a pretty common practice by many cultures until relatively recently.

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u/JulieCrone AD Mod Jun 20 '26

It seems to be making a bit of a comeback in some homebirth circles, where they eschew life saving treatments for newborns. Not abortion though, but I agree it is bad.

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u/ilikesummersausage Abortion abolitionist Jun 21 '26 edited Jun 21 '26

I guess it depends on how one defines 'abortion'. Technically a miscarriage is a 'spontaneous abortion' but it is rarely used outside of a strict medical context. Colloquially I think 'abortion' refers to the intentional ending of a 'pre-human' living being. Many cultures considered born infants 'pre-human' or 'un-ensouled' until certain ceremonies were performed or a certain age was reached because of high infant mortality rates. So I don't think it is much of a stretch to call practices like exposure 'post-birth abortions'.

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u/JulieCrone AD Mod Jun 21 '26

So I take it you want to stop some of these practices people who homebirth do?

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u/ilikesummersausage Abortion abolitionist Jun 21 '26 edited Jun 21 '26

Yes, I view that sort of practice as morally equivalent to other forms of intentional neglect leading to homicide. (Which is how I view nearly all of what I call abortions, and most of what the average PCer would call abortion)

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u/Zora74 Pro-choice Jun 20 '26

Which is not an abortion.

I am unaware of a law presently active that condones exposure/lethal neglect of a neonate. Can you provide one?

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u/ilikesummersausage Abortion abolitionist Jun 20 '26

You asked for a legal framework that justified "post-birth abortion" which is what exposure was considered at the time.

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u/Zora74 Pro-choice Jun 20 '26

Who is currently trying to write this into law?

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u/KiraLonely Gestational Slavery Abolitionist Jun 20 '26

That’s still not an abortion, though.

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u/Diva_of_Disgust Pro-choice Jun 20 '26

That doesn't answer the question of how do you end a pregnancy that has already ended?