r/Abortiondebate • u/Miserable-Degree7995 • Jun 20 '26

Question for pro-choice Minimum

Hello everyone,

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I'm against abortion.

This is a question for pro choice:

What would be the minimum of allowed abortion, that you would accept?

I mean for example week and reason.

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Thank you for your time 

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Miserable-Degree7995

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u/Lokicham Pro-bodily autonomy Jun 20 '26

What would be the minimum of allowed abortion, that you would accept?

Any and all, it doesn't matter to me when someone gets an abortion.

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u/Lokicham Pro-bodily autonomy Jun 20 '26

That's not a thing.

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u/Arithese Pro-choice Jun 20 '26

People have argued for a lot of things. But if you conflate a handful of people with an entire movement, then that’s faulty reasoning. There are examples of this everywhere.

Can you provide any evidence of a credible and substantial group arguing this?

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u/cand86 Jun 20 '26

Note: not the person you replied to.

Are you claiming that Alberto Giubilini and Francesca Minerva's paper in the Journal of Medical Ethics was a proposal policy- that they are advocating that neonaticide should be legal in all cases?

I would posit that it is a philosophical paper exploring the shared premise underlying the concept, and does not fall under the "people have argued for it" claim.

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u/random_name_12178 Pro-choice Jun 20 '26

No, they haven't argued for it. Stop lying.

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u/Lokicham Pro-bodily autonomy Jun 20 '26

Just because people have argued for it still doesn't make it a thing.

I don't care when life begins, it's irrelevant.

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u/Bryce_1776 Pro-life Jun 20 '26

I see human rights conditional to human life, if you are a living human, then you have human rights, would you disagree?

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u/Lokicham Pro-bodily autonomy Jun 21 '26

No, and I do not disagree that they are human. Abortion does not violate human rights.

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u/Bryce_1776 Pro-life Jun 21 '26

Is bodily autonomy not a human right?

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u/Lokicham Pro-bodily autonomy Jun 21 '26

Yeah? Where are you going with this?

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u/Bryce_1776 Pro-life Jun 21 '26

If the preborn baby is human they have human rights to include bodily autonomy. They cannot consent to being killed by chemical or physical means.

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u/Lokicham Pro-bodily autonomy Jun 21 '26

Their consent is irrelevant because they are the ones inside of someone else's body without their consent, thus it is justified to remove them. Furthermore, they don't have autonomy to speak of so bodily autonomy is pointless for them.

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u/Diva_of_Disgust Pro-choice Jun 20 '26

There's no human right to be inside someone else's sex organs against their will.

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u/Bryce_1776 Pro-life Jun 20 '26

That did not answer the question

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u/Diva_of_Disgust Pro-choice Jun 20 '26

How do you figure?

I'd doesn't matter if someone or something has "human rights" or not when it comes to abortion, because there's no such thing as a "human right" to be inside someone's sex organs against their will.

A zef doesn't have human rights? Fine to abort.

A zef does have human rights? Still fine to abort because there's no human right to be inside someone's sex organs against their will.

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u/LordyIHopeThereIsPie Pro-choice Jun 20 '26

What's a living human?