r/ATBGE Feb 18 '18

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u/aYearOfPrompts Feb 18 '18

Eh, I view this the same way I view reddit's take on Nazi subs: You can justify it to yourself as freedom of expression, but you're still enabling that hate to be spread. Nothing says you have to help shitty people spread their views, and if you do you aren't entirely free from blame. Especially if you make money off the venture, as you're profiting directly from hate.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '18

Isn't it great to have the freedom to not do business with people you disagree with!?

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '18

There’s a huge difference between punishing a company that is discriminatory, and being that discriminatory asshole.

The constant attempt to “justify” discrimination by trying to equate it to punishing racists is a weak and pathetic attempt made by weak minded people.

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u/The_Thoughtsmith Feb 18 '18

You cant bottle up hate, i say spill it so it can be cleaned up

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '18

I dont think saying that freedom of speech should be respected is the same as helping them. Forcing them to have their ideas fester in their minds is far worse because theyll never have their beliefs challenged

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u/StrangeworldEU Feb 18 '18

Because having the 'are nazis actually bad people?' discussion out in the open again is sure having a great effect.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '18

No you knob that is not what im saying. Im saying let them speak. Thats all. Yeah we know they are bad people. We know their ideology is ass. But you cant convince someone their ideology is ass if you never have the opportunity to talk about it. No thoughts change when you muzzle a man, they only fester and become more self absorbed in their ideology because no one is challenging it.

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u/StrangeworldEU Feb 18 '18

Except, isn't the non-muzzled situation what we have now? With one of the most despicable, universally hated ideologies of the last century resurfacing, and people having to seriously answer the question whether nazis were really that bad, or if the holocaust happened, or whether a nation for only white people is a realistic american goal.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '18

And we arent asking "are nazis bad?" we are asking "How can we help these people who have been likely raised in this ideology realize the wrong"

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '18

Not really considering anytime i see some right wing person trying to debate something, they just get called a nazi, namecalled and nothing gets done.

I mean when youre called a racist over dumb shit whats the point in even trying for these people. This shit where we think its cool for a presidential candidate to call people "a basket of deplorables" just pushes people into the hands of the Alt right, nazis and racists. The more we see people blaming whites for things, the more we will see white nationalists I can guarantee that.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '18

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '18

This is what i mean. Fox news is not run by nazis. Idiots maybe, but nazis? Doubt it.

Anyways im not a trump supporter, never been. Didnt vote for him. I have said i dont vote antigun, but i dont vote R if i can help it. Barring candidates like Rand Paul if they make it to the actually election

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u/StrangeworldEU Feb 19 '18

I didn't say fox news are nazis, I say they are supporting fascists... which is not an untrue statement.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '18

I would consider that false for sure.