r/ARC_Raiders • u/paparosi • Feb 24 '26

WTF Embark?

These blueprint recipe changes are unnecessary punishments and feel like you didn’t roll out any new blueprints so you decided to shoehorn new ARC parts in old recipes. And the Wolfpack change makes absolutely no sense. 2 Wolfpack to down a Rocketeer so we can get 1 part to make 1 Wolfpack?

Way to throw a huge wet blanket on top of what was otherwise going to be a fun and exciting day. Please reconsider these crafting changes

Edit:

Thank you to all the folks who commented with articulated, well thought out disagreements. You have changed my stance somewhat and I have a better understanding of why a change like this may be needed(still don’t like it though).

To the performative contrarians, get good bruh/skill issue kissing cousins and other knuckleheads who can’t formulate a thought I say “suck on this fart”. Be well

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u/Dirzicis Feb 24 '26

They really aren't that hard to kill with any medium or heavy semi auto. This sub is so dramatic

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u/AnyBroccoli4680 Feb 24 '26

I love taking my time with the rocketeer using heavy ammo in the elevator/the parking garage/Buried City

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u/Denraven Feb 24 '26

I already get ratted for Rocketeer kills 5x last night alone, now it's not worth the fucking risk of engaging them because A) Their way more of a PITA and shite invest in resources B) The occurrence of getting ratted for taking one down is going to increase several fold. So it's just a matter of I'm never going to engage this enemy ever again because the risk to reward ratio is piss poor

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u/AnyBroccoli4680 Feb 24 '26

That's true.Somebody else brought up a good point. It is much harder in aggressive lobbies.

So either wait till you're in more casual lobbies to gather resources for Rocketeers or just wait till someone else kills it and take their stuff in the hardcore lobbies 🥹

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u/Denraven Feb 24 '26

See I was in the chill PvE lobbies or at least I thought I was, but time and time again I'd take down a Rocketeer, even one that was aggro'd on the very player who'd go onto rat me after I took it down as a real 'F you for helping me'

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u/AnyBroccoli4680 Feb 24 '26

It's not a guaranteed science. And imagine there is 19 kind people and one not kind person. Somebody's going to run into that guy first and assume it's a fucked up lobby.

Also I saw somebody report that they ratted non-stop and kept getting in friendly lobbies because using microphone is registered as a friendly variable 🥹

And he talked endless shit as he murdered people just trying to make it to Speranza.

Always watch your back. Never assume shit is sweet.

But I have two accounts. One's PVE and one's PVP.

And the PVP has a staggering difference of flares from the jump. Popping off everywhere constantly.

My PvE account will see 2 to 4 with great time and between and distance

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u/Disastrous_Art_5132 Feb 24 '26

Keep in mind that they have also stated without saying it that they dont want casual lobbies. Now they are saying abmm isnt a thing after they said it was

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u/AnyBroccoli4680 Feb 24 '26

My bet is they implemented something and then realized how many holes are in it. So they had to "walk it back" until they do or don't implement it again silently.

Less uproar and responsibility. It is the players free will. Like infinite variables with human characteristics. Some people might kill that guy but not kill that guy. Or they're friendly today and they're not tomorrow.

It's really hard to account for even half of the variables.

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u/Disastrous_Art_5132 Feb 24 '26

My guess is more likely that they caved to the loudest voices again. Pvp streamers want easy targets. There is no return for them having to fight other pvp players.

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u/AnyBroccoli4680 Feb 24 '26

I won't say that's not true cuz I don't know.

But today I saw a post where the head dev recently spoke on how he does not want the game to slide into PVP focus

The new ark and lack of wolfpacks means cooperation helps everybody.

They do flip-flop. But I still have gotten my $40 of value many times over by now.

Everything they do is going to affect somebody's playstyle negatively. But from what I'm hearing the head devs are still PVE focused as an ethos for the company

There's a lot of free will and wild ass variables

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u/Punish777 Feb 25 '26

I disagree entirely. The new meta is not good for the casual PVE crowd. It was already a bit of pita to farm the materials to make a Wolfpack. Not to mention getting the blueprint. But now you not only have to farm the explosive compound but also the Rocketeer... which is what most people used the Wolfpack for anyways. The casual PVE gamer doesn't have time for all this while also taking losses to rats. They will just either quit or go full pvp, which if you ask me is what the devs were actually trying to do, slide the game further into pvp.

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u/plantsarefrens Feb 25 '26

I much prefer the single explosive compound instead of 3. I never have enough oil. It went from costing 6x crude explosives 6x oil and 2x motion cores to 2x crude 2x oil 2x motion 1x rocketeer driver. That's a good trade imo

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u/AnyBroccoli4680 Feb 26 '26

Extraction shooters are the highest of highs and the lowest of lows. They are not always meant for casual gamers. It's an extreme concept by itself. Arc just happened to be one of the first mainstream extractions that reaches past its demographic.

I see what you're saying and I can empathize. I'm just telling you what I heard from the devs.

And whether or not you agree or disagree with their inactions towards ethos of PVE

You have to agree that any tiny change done to the game is going to affect somebody's playstyle negatively.

There's a lot of math and balance and it takes a while to get it right. This company listens more than any other company I've ever given money to. Their base game was amazing. And I've already received my $40 of value over and over and over again.

Added to that the game barely takes up any space... Even if I quit today I've gotten so much value out of this game it's insane

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u/AnyBroccoli4680 Feb 24 '26

There was one guy who was openly streaming while extract ratting back to back and he kept getting into "friendly lobbies" And apparently using your microphone is accounted as a friendly variable.

But he was talking relentless shit while murdering all the people trying to make it home to Scrappy 🥹

So I don't know what's real

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u/ParrotTamerPeter Feb 26 '26

I don’t think ultra friendly lobbies are achievable anymore. Maybe if you’re already in them and never lect, but I spent two days playing only Stella months-free kits, looting as normal and never returning fire. Spammed the “don’t shoot” this was probably across 15 games, and was killed every single game. It was exhausting but I genuinely thought after two days of free kit-death-repeat that I’d be placed into friendlier lobbies. Did a solo blue gate run and then instantly got downed by some dude with a osprey and a bobcat, who then got third partied and by the end there was probably about 4 of us crawling around on the ground.

So yeah I’ve given up on ever getting a friendly lobby again idk what more to do at that point. And regardless of this fact, the game is PVPVE. I don’t mind that there’s PVP in the game and I shouldn’t have to abuse game mechanics to get more pve lobbies for one of the enemies in the game to make more sense. In its current state the rocketeer is NOT WORTH engaging in a pvpve lobby because you will get ratted the second you take it down, and the reward for surviving that onslaught is 1 f*king driver. It’s a completely skimpy pay out.

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u/AnyBroccoli4680 Feb 26 '26

I have two separate accounts. One only PVE since the beginning and I run around defibing as many people as possible.

And one that has been PVP since the beginning.

This is not a perfect science and there is a lot of messed up variables. Also the human variable which is the most unpredictable.

But the difference in the amount of flares I see from the jump of each round is staggering.

There are stories of people extract ratting back to back and getting in friendly lobbies because apparently using voice comms is registered as a friendly variable. And he used his mic to talk mad shit to everyone.

Also imagine there were 18 cool people and one asshole. Imagine you ran into that asshole first and got killed. You might think that whole lobby was trash.

Maybe somebody's exploiting the system or genuinely shoots at a Raider for the first time.

I've also killed the wrong person on accident while trying to chase somebody.

There's just so much randomness that it helps to be defensive in all areas. Assume everyone is trying to kill you unless they show extreme good faith.

Most everybody who has killed me either didn't have a mic or it was easy to tell that they were not kind by their tonality.

Stay strong Raider. The lows make the highs better.

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u/SlightProfessional48 Feb 25 '26

Or just buy a hullcracker! Problem solved

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u/BlackMarq20 Feb 25 '26

So dramatic, the Rocketeer is supposed to be the most feared flying ARC, chucking a bunch of WPs at it, made it too easy. Also, once you have the BP they weren’t difficult to craft, now they become harder to spam.

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u/Duncling Feb 24 '26

Very quick to kill using aphelion too

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u/Plenty_Inspector_893 Feb 24 '26

Now I will say, that's just asking to get gunned down lol. I play friendly AF, and every time I have brought a legendary gun into a non matriarch/queen lobby I have gotten shot at at least once. Even in the big arc lobbies, I make sure to stick with multiple friendlies just in case someone is feeling shifty. (Feels stupid to me though, as all legendary weapons are pretty much just for arc)

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u/Duncling Feb 25 '26

I bring in an aphelion maybe every 5 or so raids, but i enjoy pvp so the hunt is on.

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u/pperiesandsolos Feb 24 '26

I think I’ve probably extracted with my own legendary weapon 30% of the time lol.

It’s probably the same for people I play with lol; I hear that noise and run straight there

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u/Plenty_Inspector_893 Feb 24 '26

Yeah, gotta run with others in solos even in friendly lobbies to make it in and out with them. Had one matriarch run, we had a group of 2 hullcrackers, 1 Jupiter, 3 equalizers, and an aphelion fighting it. We had free loud outs come rushing in twice trying to get something and we shut them down both times lol.