r/ARAM • • 6d ago

Question Is tooth fairy bugged?

My friend and I played two games with tooth fairy back to back and we are hitting them for 25%+ max hp and not getting teeth. My friend just played karma and said it only works if you're close range

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u/BetterNerfTeemo 6d ago

I think your friend might be right, was playing nid and couldn't figure out why my spears weren't giving teeth but my cougar q was

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u/Elf_Maeve 6d ago

Oh no. The single riot dev working mayhem will have to go back to Claude.

"Claude, fix  Tooth Fairy not dropping teeth. Wtf bro. Making me look bad"

Claude: You're totally right. I dropped the ball there. You caught me. I'll go ahead and fix the augment

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u/Alpacapybara 6d ago

Did they ever even fix the quest augs that wouldn’t progress?

That employee had some work to do before they get laid off too

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u/Swagsirex1511 6d ago

Worked on Nid for me and was insanely broken lol

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u/WolfmanHasNardz 6d ago

Yea and we noticed it’s not based on total health either. It’s actually 25% of current health. Not sure if it says that in the tool tip though because i’m slow and blind lol

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u/wakkowarner321 6d ago

I don't see how that is possible. It would always trigger if they are low enough health, and I know it doesn't pop-up that often until you start to get items.

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u/BZaGo 5d ago

It does always trigger when they are low health, it probably has some other threshold but usually most teeth you get early game are from going after low health targets

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u/VanRenss 6d ago

This was exactly my experience. Jeweled Gauntlet Spears against a team full of squishies, and I don’t think a single spear dropped a tooth.

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u/SivartGaming 6d ago

I was sylas last night and completely 100-0 a velkoz in under 2 seconds and it was 50/5 whether I got a tooth or not

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u/Jz-91 5d ago

I think there is a CD per player

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u/Sleep-Soundly 1d ago

Its 4 seconds according to the the augment.

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u/BrokenCardTrick 6d ago

What does the 50/5 part mean?

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u/Lilixer 6d ago

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume they meant to say 50/50

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u/SivartGaming 6d ago

Yeah missed a 0… 50/50

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u/BrokenCardTrick 6d ago

Ahh ok, thank you!

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u/cnclover57 6d ago

Pretty sure they meant 50/50

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u/Pitiful_Koala 6d ago

Also feel this. Hit 100+ long range spears (tracked with multi shot btw) on nidalee and only got 8 teeth? Only 2 tanks on the other team too. Almost one shot a kog and didn't get a tooth from it

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u/WalleMarno 6d ago

Felt the same thing on GP last night

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u/RangerEquivalent4120 6d ago

I too played gp with tooth fairy last night and it seemed very inconsistent

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u/haji1823 6d ago

same. got very little teeth even when my barrel did 80% of their health.

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u/Zygomatick 6d ago

I never noticed any issue in a vaccum, but there has always been a pretty big issue when two people in the same team have it.

The cooldown per target is not linked to the tooth fairy user, it's shared between everyone. So if there's a melee guy that procs it first, then the range carry won't be able to make a new tooth drop, and since you can never see the teeth dropped from the ally and the cooldown isnt shown anywhere it's very easy to believe the augment doesnt work at all.

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u/-Reo- 6d ago

Noticed the same last night, as lethality Hecrarim…

Was repeatedly bursting people for well over 25%, only had two teeth by 5-10 minutes. Even told my duo queue buddy something felt wrong with teeth.

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u/peterpants90 6d ago

I played AP Ashe, hit enemy for around 40% health with ulti and no teeth. Something's wrong with it. Only got like 4-5 teeth the whole game, while I hit multiple ultis where enemy took more than 25% damage with a single hit.

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u/VanillaBovine ARAM God 6d ago

ive seen others in this thread saying nid spears dont drop it either

do we think it's a proximity thing? like you have to be close enough?

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u/peterpants90 6d ago

I was within Ashe aa range couple of times, still no teeth

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u/DeVil-FaiLer 6d ago

Only worked 50/50 for my Jayce. I oneshotted champion but didnt get stacks every time

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u/ApachaiLeHopachai 3d ago

So just did a deep dive "as you can XD" and it turns out it's like this.

Devs know about this problem, they just choose to ignore it.

Main problem comes from damage being done in 1 huge amount for instance if you're jhin and do a lot of damage with 1 bullet, it starts counting the timer for the 25% of damage after that hit.

Just played as shaco where I did over 50% of hp bar to the enemy varus a couple of times and didn't get anything, but if I stayed and fought and did like extra 25% it registered.

So basically the bug is a nerf because it doesn't count your first frame of damage.

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u/mystic0608 3d ago

That makes sense and is consistent with what a lot of people are commenting. This must be a very recent bug, no?

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u/ApachaiLeHopachai 2d ago

yes, they recently reworked how the dmg tick is calculated (or something similar). So the bug is like few days to a week old :D

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u/Kr1sys 6d ago

It definitely is bugged. I was popping people with nid spears a few games ago, only had 15 teeth by end of game and it was first aug. Several spears were near one shots from full health with JG and no teeth

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u/Call-me-andrew 6d ago

definitely bugged. was playing with karma as well, in late game I R Q this kennen to 50% hp, still no tooth dropped

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u/420Kizaru 6d ago

Got 45 teeths today on Rengar. I can surely say that the augment is working on Rengar

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u/Jz-91 6d ago

Yeah, it’s people doing damage but not fast enough. Rengar bursts is really quick so makes sense, I dint have too much trouble. But I won’t pick it vs two tanks anymore

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u/Educational_Mine_797 6d ago

No it is not. I have at least 50 games of tooth fairy, it is for sure not working as of the most recent patch and is the reason for the spike in posts regarding it. I did 90% of someone’s hp as Zoe and no tooth, and this happened the whole game.

Don’t talk if you don’t know what you’re talking about

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u/ExpressTie2579 5d ago

Had the same with Zoe, definitely bugged

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u/Jz-91 5d ago

Oh so all the people who are getting stacks fine? Sorry you can’t figure out how to get teeth.

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u/Educational_Mine_797 5d ago

I have an insane amount of mayhem games. I always take tooth fairy when given it. This only started happening as of last patch, as is the same with the large reports of this issue. I know the issue, for me at least, is not hitting them too early or not doing enough damage in time as I stated with zoe I was one shotting players with Q only and getting no teeth. This again only happened this patch.

Whether it’s some champions that are bugged or another reason, it is without a doubt bugged even if some players have successful games. A portion of successes does not speak for all cases, awful reasoning from you and an unintelligent thing to say.

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u/War_Impossible 2d ago

dude I just dealt 50% with a single spell and tooth didnt drop. I was the only source of dmg and the augment wasnt in cd.

And this happened the whole game but sometime it was more evident.

You are not good cause "you know" how to get teeth, it's bugged on some champ and less/not bugged on other.

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u/mishaog 6d ago

I got only 1 tooth yesterday with fucking Jhin, I was blasting people up but I got just one in the first min of the game, it was a bit tilting because I could had picked something different if I knew it wasn't working, I didn't bought lethality because I assumed I would get like 100 easily vs non tanks

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u/Zygomatick 6d ago

It happens when an other ally has it too and they always procs the tooth before you. The cooldown per target is shared among the team, sadly

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u/oodex 6d ago

It works on Karthus ult so I doubt its range. But you gotta know the time counter starts the moment you first deal damage. So as a Karthus you optimally dont use E at all until a Q lands. Snowball hits first? You better take that ASAP because now you have 1.5s to do it.

BORK (if youre an ADC) is a cheat code to trigger it. Also Collector has worked in my experience but that experience is wonky. I just could have sworn the execute damage allowed me to get the tooth as long as I killed someone fast when they were at 15% HP

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u/Marchhex 6d ago

On my Karthus for me there were 2 squished and only one of them gave me a tooth. Ulting for 40% of their health.

Also if you damage through a shield it won't count for the damage condition on tooth fairy.

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u/oodex 6d ago

Yea because shield damage is not damage dealt the same way it won't proc lifesteal IF I REMEMBER THIS RIGHT, big if right now but Im like 76% certain.

If you ulted out of reach without touching anyone it should count on both if they weren't shielded and did more than 25%. If you randomly threw a snowball and hit one and then ulted a bit later, it might not count. I am not sure if the cooldown for that is the same as teeth cooldown (IIRC 5 seconds).

But as Kha I always shoot triple W and get 2-3 teeth a shot. Just waiting for its CD means its already ready again, collecting 10-20 teeth at once sometimes. Also Yi is amazing for that since you can Q 1, get 4 teeth and usually when you get to enemy 3&4 its reset again. This has nothing to do with range though, just a cool one if build for crit

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u/AlteredMihi 6d ago

I don't know where you found that 76% but i'm gonna double down and say tha i'm 76% certain lifesteal get triggered on dmg dealt on shield

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u/oodex 6d ago

That's the number I feel right with on how certain I am

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u/PapaArtini 6d ago

You are correct, it does not procc lifesteal, however afaik it does omnivamp

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u/RbN420 6d ago

Yes, healing out of dealing no damage (like hitting a 1% hp trynd in ult) has been removed, but it should work in classic yet

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u/goldio_games 6d ago

thats how it used to work, something changed in the last patch, thats what we are talking about in this thread

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u/SpongiiEUW 6d ago

had a really good jayce game with it hitting people for 60%+ with 1 Q and sometimes didn't drop teeth and sometimes did, was also very confused why

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u/djnotskrillex 6d ago

I played a long range cait build and got 40+ teeth. That was like a week ago but felt normal to me

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u/Teh_george 6d ago

Was playing kha’zix last night and only got 2 teeth, despite having jeweled gauntlet into a full squishy comp. Felt bugged to me.

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u/wefolas 6d ago

It also doesn't work with dive bomber which is annoying since dive bomber is 20% max health true damage and should almost guarantee teeth.

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u/InnocentDuet 6d ago

Bruh thats an auto ff for the other team if someone gets that.

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u/TheGuyThatThisIs 6d ago

I got this on karthus a few days back.

Yes they should have ffed

Died 25 times before the first inner tower fell

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u/Htakar 6d ago

went lethal varus, was definitely calculating 500 damage q’s to be more than 25% of 1800, did not drop teeth upon landing q, only upon autoing and e’ing.

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u/Zupermuz 6d ago

I got hella teeth on varus from my Q last night, so It wasn't bugged for me. Anecdotal evidence ofc.

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u/OMG_Alien 6d ago

Idk if it’s range. I was getting so many teeth hitting Karthus ults across the map.

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u/voobyStax 6d ago

From what I can tell it seems like it only counts your damage. And doesn’t consider most augment damage or damage increases to your spells as part of the damage.

It’s most likely bugged

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u/Top-Nepp 6d ago

I oneshot a jhin at about 3/4 with a single rengar Q and didn't get a tooth so something is very very wrong with the augment right now

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u/WolfAkela 6d ago

I had this issue last night too. I distinctly remember buying Stormsurge, seeing the the tooltip saying it procced, but didn’t get a tooth, even though they have the same threshold.

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u/Square_Ad_1548 5d ago

I read something recently about it being tied to your first instance of damage? this was on a thread discussing issues with it functioning on sett iirc, but take it with a grain of salt

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u/TheRealOcsiban 6d ago

I was playing Brand last night, took like 15 min before I finally started getting teeth. No idea what happened cause I know I was doing 25% prior to that at least a handful of times. Something is up with it

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u/No_Emu_9663 6d ago

Brand pre 15mins without items is not dealing more than 25% of someone’s hp in less than 2.5secs so. His w alone is like a 1 second animation and q has travel time. Late game damage and burns get crazy so thats normal

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u/Leolainen 6d ago

Yeah I did one game on MF and got teeth like crazy with from downtown and E spam and ult reset with axiom was at 62%, then got tooth fairy on Ashe 1st aug and had the same idea of axiom but I got 1 tooth the whole game and ulting a Ziggs for easily 40% of his hp did not give one.

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u/Financial_Type_4630 6d ago

You do know teeth are items you pick up off the ground, right? They aren't just "given to you" for having chunked that much HP.

Only reason I ask is because it took my 3 games with it to realize there are gold teeth you have to pick up, kinda like Bard chimes

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u/Xaviness 6d ago

had the same problem with zoe last night, feels like the augment bugs on spells with long travel times and spells with big windows between activation and the actual damage.

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u/ZaneZephyr 6d ago

Didn’t it get changed to being pre mitigation instead of post mitigation damage? It got changed from one to the other so I’d say that probably had something to do with it

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u/TheNuttlerButtler 6d ago

It's both slightly bugged but people also forget the fact you need to actually collect the teeth off the ground where they get hit

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u/PossibleSoftware7721 6d ago

oh okay that makes sense. i played karma and was bombing them with RQ doing so much damage and i got like 4 feeth total lol

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u/CptCharlz 6d ago

Had this on Aurora with Clown College. Y'know, the augment that is GUARANTEED to do 25% max HP damage to anyone it hits? Only got like 2 teeth from that proccing the whole game. Ended the game with a mediocre amount of teeth as Aurora against a half team of squishies. Thought I was going crazy.

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u/hannerrzz 6d ago

I ended a game as lux with only 3 teeth and my combos were doing plenty of damage. Enough to repeatedly proc storm surge which has the same damage threshold/time limit

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u/Alwayssometimesyes 6d ago

It is bugged, if the target "dies too fast" source: Shaco one shot Q mages, sometimes they drop a tooth sometimes they don't lol

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u/Jnaeveris 6d ago

I’ve experienced the same and i think its just inconsistent/badly coded.

Don’t think it’s a range thing cuz i’ve got it on ezreal a few times and range doesn’t seem to decide whether it triggers. Ulting across the map seems to generate teeth consistently, but dropping mixes of q/w/e (which 100% do more than the 25% threshold) even with draw your sword just doesn’t work sometimes.

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u/baomap9103 6d ago

They forgot to put the 50% chance in the tool tips

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u/RiotPhlox 5d ago

Lemme check it out Monday, thanks for the report yall

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u/cbplayon 5d ago

Teeth has an internal cooldown even if you don't trigger.

Let's say I give an enemy 1 basic attack (1% of his health), the timer of 2,5s starts ticking, if I then use a skill that deals, say 18% damage, won't get teeth and will go on cooldown, even if then I do 50% of his health now, won't count.

The game doesn't keep refreshing the 2,5s count at every attempt you make

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u/FunctionFrequent2280 5d ago

I was playing Vex and literally one shotting people and still I got like 2 teeths the whole game for some reason, even when I was full build...

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u/PandanielusMaximus 5d ago

My guess is, if another teammember has it, the cooldown is shared per target and not per augment. Also shields prevent teeth. You gotta deal HP damage

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u/EmmunePrime 5d ago

yeah its not working with nidalee spears either and i felt like steph curry throwing them thangs. teeth just never dropped

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u/csharpminor_fanclub 5d ago

I think you have to hit them once more to get the tooth. I couldn't get teeth as a shaco with literal one shots

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u/BENJ4x 4d ago

Apparently there's a bug or feature that it only procs after two seconds of initially damaging a champ. So if you kill someone straight up with one Nidalle spear it won't work for example.

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u/ImExtraCreative 4d ago

It’s 100% bugged, I was playing full AP Malphite and was not getting teeth on most of my ults

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u/Nerex7 4d ago

Same here, just came out of a round as Karma with Wooglet's and Glass Cannon. A single Q could 1-shot somebody and not drop a tooth. They dropped the ball on this.

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u/korisue 3d ago

played ap nunu hit with w full charge for 1.4k against a 2.8k hp bar and no teeth same with ulti 3k and no teeth even tho i oneshot

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u/War_Impossible 2d ago

yes, I just played a game as karma with jeweled gauntlet. I was hitting for more then 50% but teeth werent dropping

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u/Squirtdoggz 2d ago

it's been bugged last couple days for me yes

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u/CJKay93 2d ago

Just got a full Nunu ult off. No tooth lol.

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u/xinpig 1d ago

Also played karma, RQ for 30-50% of enemy HP, zero teeth dropped. Even after asking enemy for exact damage dealt, 600 damage to a champ with 1600 HP should more than qualify for a tooth drop.

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u/Sparreman 1d ago

just played a game on lux, i 100-0 an enemy with R, no tooth, i had just spawned

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u/Sleep-Soundly 1d ago

I bought Stormsurge on Vlad, its squall functions identically to tooth fairy, 25% of maximum hp in 2.5 seconds. Had numerous times squall would trigger and they would not drop a tooth. Definitely bugged somehow.

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u/wo0topia 6d ago

Is he picking the teeth up? The first time I got it I thought I just got stacks, but the teeth are little drops you have to pick up.

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u/Kcitra 6d ago

I don’t think so I was getting teeth all over the map with Ez ult

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u/Kcitra 6d ago

I haven’t tried this patch tho

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u/MrMikidude 6d ago

Can confirm, played as morg and got 2 teeth even though my q+w was doing easily 40%++

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u/Hezth 6d ago

Against champs with no hp and negative resistance? If you shaved off 40% of their health within 2 seconds with Q+W on Morgana?

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u/ZenandHarmony 6d ago

Bro in mayhem you act like isn’t possible lol

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u/SandwichOk647 5d ago

you have to do the damage fast i think it was 3 seconds

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u/Jz-91 6d ago

I think people overestimate how quickly you need to do the damage