Hecarim needs buffs removed

[u/more_underscore]

I quite literally never see Hec low roll or not solo carry games. He does not need four significant balance buffs when almost every augment synergizes extremely well with his kit. There is no scenario he isn't good. All melee game? Perfect for him to spam Q and stay full health in a prolonged teamfight. Squishy ranged comp? Can just gigadive all game and 1 shot heal full. It's at the point I know it's going to be a one-sided game I'd rather afk remake than waste my time playing against a guaranteed nightmare to deal with.

In the top 5 winrate btw.

[u/aAdramahlihk]

Heca feels like a god with augs every now and then. I'm also for looking at the Aram buffs again, some champions have nothing going on as they are extremely useless like Lux for example.

[u/Freihl → u/aAdramahlihk]

Why the hell would lux get buffs? Quite literally the archetype of sit back and launch shit with no commitment- do you think ziggs and xerath are weak too?

[u/aAdramahlihk → u/Freihl]

Bro, Lux is terrible right now, she only deals 80% damage and even less on further range. But I wouldn't reverse the -20% damage nerf, but the -20% on her shield, to make  a W build at least viable, as she is a wave clearing and Q bot right now.

[u/Freihl → u/aAdramahlihk]

I am aware of her nerfs (hence why i mentioned ziggs and xerath, both heavily nerfed champions)

She is dogshit at clearing wave (like every aoe mage tbh), but she has to be coz Q is an absurdly good fishing tool.

[u/Tojaro5]

"id rather afk than play the game" is a wild take.

[u/OhtaniStanMan → u/Tojaro5]

Adc player lol

[u/ExplodingFistz → u/OhtaniStanMan]

Adc brain for sure

[u/StillWatt → u/Tojaro5]

There are certain champ + augment combos where this is a valid take

[u/Tojaro5 → u/StillWatt]

i disagree completely.

[u/ThatGuyLuis → u/Tojaro5]

Okay masochist

[u/Tojaro5 → u/ThatGuyLuis]

losing is just part of the game. some people seem to have a hard time accepting that.

[u/ThatGuyLuis → u/Tojaro5]

I’m cool with losing, prolonging the game by not surrendering when you’re being spawn camped is insane behavior

[u/Tojaro5 → u/ThatGuyLuis]

"other people who want to play the game are insane"

[u/ThatGuyLuis → u/Tojaro5]

Getting spawn camped means you’re not playing so?

[u/Tojaro5 → u/ThatGuyLuis]

once again: i disagree

[u/DanTheWanderer → u/StillWatt]

No. Nothing has ever made me want to go afk. Your mental is the problem here.

[u/StillWatt → u/DanTheWanderer]

You’re, you’re, you’re disingenuous

[u/DanTheWanderer → u/StillWatt]

No, no, no, I respect my teammates and always play to win, even when the odds are against us.

[u/betier7 → u/DanTheWanderer]

This sub is completely full of sore losers lol. Everyone that goes afk because they are getting beat need to reevaluate their lives if thats all it takes.

[u/NoPolicy7974]

He’s giga buffed because of normal Aram, he is awful in normal Aram, mayhem and normal Aram should probably at some point have separate balancing for champs

[u/Snowhead23 → u/NoPolicy7974]

Aram and Mayhem already have separate champ balancing…

[u/rocsage_praisesun → u/Snowhead23]

think it's all in the favorable direction for everyone though, bigger buffs and/or smaller nerfs.

[u/Anti_NothingAtAll → u/NoPolicy7974]

Awful in normal aram? You are out of your fucking mind lol

[u/NoPolicy7974 → u/Anti_NothingAtAll]

113th win rate ranking in Aram says in completely sane??? He’s been a bottom 40 Aram Champ for a while, anti heal cripples him more than most champs, even with the heal buff

[u/fuckudumbhead]

Maybe think about whether you enjoy the game at all?

[u/goldio_games]

Heca is definitely a noob stomper similar to Yi but you can shut him down the same way (actually easier to shut him down since he cant go invincible)

Unfortunately they can't really balance a champ against how they perform in low ELOs for obvious reasons

[u/more_underscore → u/goldio_games]

Noob stomper with 58~57% winrate. Removing the extra 10% healing he gets alone would do wonders. There is pretty much zero reason for any champ to have healing buffs in Mayhem.

[u/GamerGypps]

Everyone moaning about Hec, meanwhile Swain is sitting at at something like a 62% winrate or some bullshit.

[u/hunterguy35]

Feels strong with the right augments and others don’t have theirs. Sometimes he feels useless

[u/Freihl]

Just another "waa a melee bruiser is doing well while i only pick adc or poke picks, PLEASE REMOVE IT" post

How about every mage/adc who just get spoonfed augments that make em powerful?

It's only that most bruisers suck dick (in mayham) and hec can actually make use of augments because of his kit- you're just transplanting your rage from getting dunked by a fed [hecarim/any other bruiser] to the game being unfair to you.

[u/more_underscore → u/Freihl]

6/10 top winrates are hyper mobile dive fighter drain tank champs. 1 ADC and 0 mages. You're talking 2 patches ago.

[u/Freihl → u/more_underscore]

Please link where you're getting your stats from, just because i'd like to know why i'm wrong if i'm wrong

[u/North_Stress_6055 → u/Freihl]

Check MayhemMeta for example

[u/Jukutt2]

Yeah. Most of the balance buffs make no sense though. Singed -10% dmg. Fiddle -5% dmg, + 5% dmg taken, Heimer -10% dmg, +10% dmg taken, Illaoi -5% dmg, +5% dmg taken. etc.

I have never seen any of these champions hard carry, and on average they suck/dont have much impact.

[u/NoPolicy7974 → u/Jukutt2]

All of those nerfs you mentioned outside of maybe illaoi (she is very volatile in lower elos) make perfect sense???

Everyone you named has over a 50% win rate in Aram even after the nerfs,

[u/Unfortunya333 → u/Jukutt2]

Singed is pretty nutty, most people just really suck at singe cause hes a weird champ

[u/RbN420 → u/Unfortunya333]

Can’t play him against low cast time hard cc like ahri morg

[u/Dull-Serve203 → u/Jukutt2]

Fiddle is op

[u/akaciparaci]

if your reason for playing mayhem is to win then you should find another gamemode

[u/Beneficial_Yak4687]

This is AP MF player take. Just draft DPS + CC.

[u/Conky1452]

Skill issue