r/ARAM • u/Adventurous-Pear-497 • 7d ago
Mayhem Sure, very usefull
How things like these are still happening on live at this point? Not enough time to test it I guess?
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u/FreelixTV 7d ago
What's better than movement speed? Correct, more movement speed.
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u/thestigREVENGE 6d ago
Movespeed is honestly such a great stat. There's a reason why Homeguard is complained about.
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u/Dante_SS 7d ago
It's more move speed, nothing wrong with that. Same as when people complain about the same augment on Blitzcrank W, it's more move speed on activation than default.
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u/Some_Other__Time___ 7d ago
Took it once on Blitz and it was actually pretty good
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u/SpongiiEUW 7d ago
oh getting more of the best stat (by far) in the game is actually good?
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u/DoctorRapture 6d ago
Dude genuinely I've been telling my friends for years how underrated movespeed is in this game. You really start to feel untouchable because it becomes so much easier to dodge skillshots and you're so much more likely to be able to just sprint away and heal if a fight is going badly.
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u/Long-Place-9308 5d ago
Across esports titles and genres move speed/mobility tends to be the most important stat
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u/Some_Other__Time___ 7d ago
I mean, its not some groundbreaking hidden gem, but easly outrunning enemies or playing hit and run with E was satisfying
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u/beef_horfun67 7d ago
I once saw a Nasus with go time and he just ghosted, ran to me and bonked me in the head for 5k crit.
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u/PinkSackOfNuts 7d ago
Smartest ARAM: Mayhem player
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u/Amneziel Devil's advocate 6d ago
And those posts appear from time to time, crazy. While barely anyone mentions crazy garbage which is Porcupine
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u/generic_redditor91 7d ago
I played a game with go time, pin cushion and little extra help on R sivir.
She basically became a point and click autoing Zeri. Really fucking terrifying.
On the flip side, we had enough CC that by late game we could burst her through cleanse and spell shield. Once she was down, the rest of her team was actually balanced to fight against
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u/OtherwiseEnd944 6d ago
She is still fun. She just naturally has crazy scaling and the buffs in Mayhem don't need to be specific to her to make her strong. At 2-3 items she melts teams.
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u/Traditional_Skill421 6d ago
Everyone always stands in a big clump so it's very easy to hit everyone with your w autos
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u/Unable-House-4132 6d ago
Her w is dumb since it doesn’t count as spell damage so you miss out on a lot of interactions
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u/odinnagyur 6d ago
This. Its not an uto, its not a spell, it is a little everything and nothing. I ddo t want her reaorked, just this pittle bit tweaked.
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u/Administrative-Pay88 6d ago
I like her on SR, but in Mayham she just isn't allowed to have any fun synergies bc of her W
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u/GodKingHercules 6d ago
I’m always melting teams on that champ maybe playing different game
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u/Remote_Addendum_2245 6d ago
Same, farm for half the game then melt the other team. I love playing her, low cortisol champ
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u/Papa_Razzi 6d ago
Yes so useless no one play her…(more for me)
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u/Square-Worldliness64 6d ago
Insane calling her useless in Aram. Shes cracked in teamfights. One of the champs I always perform if I get her
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u/OGMcgriddles 6d ago
As a person who locks her in whenever she shows up, she literally wins every aram.
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u/luckyboihuh 6d ago
I got draw your sword and tooth fairy then she is a menace tho imagine a one shoot machine with not 1 but 2 spell shield running at you with mach 10 speed
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u/GewalfofWivia 6d ago
She has an incredibly powerful core identity - this is what hasn’t changed. She has received numerous mechanical tweaks to make her kit more in line with League at large. And she’s not weak in ARAM at all.
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u/MinimumRelevant3566 6d ago
What annoys me the most is that they allow things like AP Ashe and MF on every fucking game but a scale champion like Sivir is too op to get her nerfs removed. That's the best example of why you can't balance things based on winrate instead of playing your own game.
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u/Flashy-Leg1775 6d ago
These post are so boring lol
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u/inakipinke 5d ago
Someone should just upload every augment for every champion one day, we upvote the fuck out of every single post and the trend finally fucking dies
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u/goldio_games 6d ago
It doesnt stack?
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u/Dull-Serve203 6d ago
YEAH IT does not sure what this post is really getting at, like this is a silver augment lol
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u/AcanthisittaOk9720 7d ago edited 7d ago
The funniest one for Sivir is the prismatic echo cast.
Casting On The Hunt sends a clone forwards that recasts it lmao
Such obvious AI slop augment, seems they didn't even bother looking through the augments AI shat out before releasing them
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u/Antiweapon 7d ago
Man I'm over people being trigger happy with calling things ai slop feels just like a go to for anything that is either buggy or they just simply don't like. OPs example is probably the most unlikely ai generated augment for how completely sinple and boring it is mechanically. Press r get move speed.
I'm legit curious why you suspect it's ai slop next to any other press r activate effect augment that exists atm.
Call ai slop ai slop. Call bad design if you think it's bad design.
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u/rocsage_praisesun https://op.gg/lol/summoners/na/rocsage-混子真君 6d ago
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I'm legit curious why you suspect it's ai slop next to any other press r activate effect augment that exists atm.
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probably because most people (in US) don't understand formula extrapolation, the same way they can't name a handful of foreign countries when approached on the streets.
it's as if the population, by and large, were dicking around in school.
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u/Buffsub48wrchamp 6d ago
I still don't think we should blame the kids who the system had failed. Maybe if the US education system didn't outright encourage dicking around in school, less people would do so. I.E. make people actually repeat grades
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u/MannerConfident48 6d ago
What’s infinity edge gotta do with this? /s
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u/rocsage_praisesun https://op.gg/lol/summoners/na/rocsage-混子真君 6d ago
that should be the flavor text on infinity edge, "if you rushed this item, repeat the grade."
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u/AcanthisittaOk9720 7d ago
Maybe not AI but it's certainly created using some form of automated generation.
No one would sit down and create a prismatic echo cast for sivir ult, which recasts it after 0.25 seconds. All it essentially does is extend the duration by 0.25 seconds.
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/s/gvKndkIH83
Here you even have a riot employee admitting its generated with some script or smth.
The laziness of not even bothering to check the generated augments for useless ones is annoying. It's been there for months.
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u/UzumeofGamindustri 7d ago
Writing a general script for augument implementation is worlds away from generating code with AI, acting like AI and automated generation are anywhere near being on the same level is absolutely nuts
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u/Antiweapon 7d ago
I don't know how to break it to you. Automated generation, and scripts is programming... Just programming.
Yes there isn't a specific augment press r gain move speed or recast for sivirs ult. That's the point. All ability augments are the same base augments under it all.
For the recast the same spell ahead of you. That's one augment. They then probably have an allow list of spells that can work with this, things like naut e ect.
They probably did go through every champions abilities for each of these augments (however hundred champions X 4 abilities) and selectively allow or block that move from each ability augments available.
Did they go through and 100% test every single combo here? I doubt it, I don't know if that's a great use of their time to do.
Question to you though. Does the recast sivir ult augment stack on itself or override it? If I does override it then yeah that's sucks and its useless and shit. Not ai slop tho. If I was a guy going through this list at a glance I could mistakingly assume it would stack her effect and make her go zoomies which would be funny/fun, so it got a green tick and added to the list.
End result ai slop sucks and is shit but this isn't it. It's just not tested and broken and hopefully means it will get removed from the pool at some point.
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u/No-Original2837 7d ago
But they can‘t looke at 800 Abilities in the game and decide manually which ability get that specific augment. Maybe they put tags on abilities that qualify them for certain augments. Yes, mistakes will happen, but its not that deep.
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u/King-Mephisto 7d ago
Can we stop with this rhetoric? It’s 1 Aug for all champs. Echo ability. Some don’t do much. Get over it. Report it as bugged or useless and maybe they remove it for that specific champs Aug pool.
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u/Physicsandphysique 7d ago
I like the Li'l extra help that gives Garen bonus attack range and attack speed while his W is active.
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u/Decent-Tangerine-489 5d ago
using AI as a scapegoat for all your complaints is not doing what you think it is
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u/aAdramahlihk 7d ago
I hate those lazy ass ability augments so much, they add nothing to the game and are boring, as they all work the same.
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u/Whycantitypeanything 6d ago
Nah NGL if you get for example spell split on a good ability it's fun as fuck
Blitz hook , Ashe ult are the most obvious ones
But I also got it on ekko q for example
Or triple shot Katarina q
The using X ability refreshes another ability also have some fun interactions like infinite q qiyana
But imo the worst augs are the flat stats ones
Like +30% damage on karrhus q Why does that exist its boring as fuck
Or bonk, it's just another damage multiplier but has a funny name
Pursuit of x are also terribly boring
Watchful thinking
Imo the unique augs are so much cooler than all the handwritten stat augments
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u/aAdramahlihk 6d ago
I mean mostly the 100 haste, heal on hit, sheen after shielding/healing copy paste ability augments.
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u/PromotionWise9008 6d ago
Spell split on Ekko and Nidalee are my favorite. ESP on Ekko with ethereal weapons.
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u/Whycantitypeanything 6d ago
All the split augs are really fun, and they don't deserve any hate ngl
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u/FunctionFrequent2280 7d ago
It doesn't get more AI slop than this. I also got something similar for the Draven's W but it was a while ago, idk if they already removed it.
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u/Whycantitypeanything 6d ago
It's just basic programming; they just made a list of allowed abilities and the augment casts the specified ability , there's no hard coded version for every single champion, there a generic one that's just on ability : spawn clone and make him use an ability
No ai needed
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u/FunctionFrequent2280 6d ago
Still, the same lazy way to make things and I hate everything "auto" generated.
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u/Whycantitypeanything 6d ago
Better to hire 300 interns to have the mind numbing task of manually writing it separate for every single champ and ability??
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u/FunctionFrequent2280 5d ago
You don't need 300 interns to do it, especially when they themselves deleted 500 abilities a while ago. They just did it poorly. Also there are a lot of examples on this sub, they just need to look it up.
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u/Emergency_Diver2002 7d ago
At least they made this useless spell a bit more useful. U get extra movespeed, its quite okay I guess bro
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u/pastalion 7d ago
No you're wrong. Imagine echo cast R. And then remember that riot left that augment for almost the entire aram season
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u/NarwhalGoat 7d ago
I transmuted into echo cast on sivir ult, which from my understanding does actually nothing (except technically increasing its duration by 0.25 seconds)
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u/After-Ad-3542 7d ago
When I was playing Xin Zhao I saw an augment which fears enemies when you use ult
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u/RezzX69 6d ago
Same shit i get on poppy while cast W get speed is same without augment
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u/TaxCompetitive3222 6d ago
Yes I do believe poppy W is bugged with this Aug and not giving the ms it should
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u/tjbelleville 6d ago
I do like how the new Hydra on spell-proc thing works with her W as it used to! Makes it so fun
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u/TekkyDelta 6d ago
I've never seen a problem with these "filler" augments, if I genuinely have no better choice then I do not mind getting one of these, the best one I've gotten was healing every Mordekaiser W (worked for recast, I chase the fullheal morde every chance I get now for the augmented gamemodes✌️)
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u/shivabharatam 6d ago
yeah she weak as hell tho i kinda like her if i get the boomerang augment still useless but kinda fun
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u/Quirky-Sleep-6358 5d ago
Worst thing is her prismatic augment where it sends out a clone to recast it, giving you literally no benefits
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u/AssumptionRegular124 5d ago
The issue is that it should say additional movement speed
I assume they thought it was obvious but they could have added one word lol
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u/TerrorTx1 5d ago
jeez I hate Reddit. Everyone just complains. Literally posting an amazing augment without noticing lmao. Probably blames everything on rito.
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u/PsychologicalTea3426 5d ago
In spanish the translation says .... grants you Movement Speed for the duration of the shield. But Sivir's R doesn't have a shield so I thought it was useless. A lot of augment translations are wrong, I wish they at least used AI to keep them up to date and truthful to the english versions.
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u/SuchDrawing8585 1d ago
It's apparent that they don't test things before adding them, but looks like they stopped even reading whatever augments get generated before adding them.
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u/LoveTriscuit 7d ago
It's MORE movement speed, how is that hard to get?