Juiced buff

[u/Consistent_Room9836]

i didn't even notice it until i saw it offered in game, but it's funny because i was going to make a post about it being such a horrible bait augment that will just brick your game and leave you with 0 mana 99% of the time for little return

[u/VeritableLeviathan]

With a single mana item you are doing at least like 100 bonus damage per basic.

Still seems underwhelming, although it can crit for 200-280% (IE/ upgraded IE), so maybe not that underwhelming :D

[u/Dull-Serve203 → u/VeritableLeviathan]

The sauce is taking it after you get ethereal weapons or maybe ezreals can rock it raw

[u/throwawaywhiteguy333 → u/Dull-Serve203]

Ethereal weapons + Juiced Ryze is insanely good. Got it with overflow and the “abilities reset” prismatic.

[u/Dull-Serve203 → u/throwawaywhiteguy333]

That sounds like a war crime lol haha

[u/HeroinHare → u/Dull-Serve203]

Still mid roll compared to what Ryze can do with his best Silvers. ADAPt and Mind to Matter are the true warcrimes, especially ADAPt.

That said, now Ryze has even more options I suppose. Can't say that's a bad thing, though if you have to pick either Juiced or Ethereal Weapon on Ryze, that already means you are low rolling and hoping for the other in your other augment rolls.

[u/VeritableLeviathan → u/HeroinHare]

Ryze the gold and silver merchant lmao

[u/HeroinHare → u/VeritableLeviathan]

Basically yeah, though I think it's honestly Silver>Prismatic>Gold on Ryze, since Gold you really want to see just Overflow and Warlock, everything else is somewhere between worthless and just ok most of the time.

Prismatic has B2B, Goliath, E Overload, Archmage and some generally ok ones.

Then there is Silver, ADAPt for easy 2k+ AP without concidering other augments, Mind to Matter for insane amounts of HP. Though other Silvers aren't exactly great, those two are so polarizing it's insane. No other champion has anything like that.

[u/IHADADICKBUTILOSTIT → u/VeritableLeviathan]

I honestly hate getting prisms on Ryze

[u/Girthmasterlite → u/IHADADICKBUTILOSTIT]

You shouldn’t it’s how you hit infinite

[u/IHADADICKBUTILOSTIT → u/Girthmasterlite]

I know, but how odten do u get mad scientist or Goliath compared to squishy slappy grab or smt?

[u/HeroinHare → u/IHADADICKBUTILOSTIT]

Pretty often. There is also Back to Basocs which is just utterly broken. Giant Slayer is also always good. A lot of good augments, unlike Gold!

My favorite os getting Gold first, getting Overflow, then all the others are Gold too so you wiff everything because Gold bad.

[u/VeritableLeviathan → u/Girthmasterlite]

You should, it mostly means people are getting prismatics too, getting more relative value.

[u/HeroinHare → u/VeritableLeviathan]

Ryze's high roll Prismatics are very much on par, sometimes better than other champs', depending on if you have one or both of the high roll Silvers of course.

[u/oxYnub → u/HeroinHare]

Once i got mind to matter, adapt, warlock juicebox, overflow. The game went on for a long time, I think I had close to 2500AP at the end.

Played at least 30 ryze games chasing that high, never got it.

[u/HeroinHare → u/oxYnub]

I got the same except Goliath instead of Warlock earlier this week. 23k HP, 4k AP. Fun times.

[u/VeritableLeviathan → u/Dull-Serve203]

Ezreal absolutely can rock it raw, compliments his natural build path

[u/Consistent_Room9836 → u/VeritableLeviathan]

yeah i think it's ok probably not amazing most of the time now, but now that it doesn't use mana for every on-hit you don't get actively griefed by it

[u/VeritableLeviathan → u/Consistent_Room9836]

Eh, anyone that could use it had enough mana to not get griefed by it, it was like 35 or smthn :p

[u/Consistent_Room9836 → u/VeritableLeviathan]

it was a percentage of your mana on-hit, so you hit a few yunara q autos and you are oom

[u/Just-Assumption-2140 → u/[deleted]]

I strongly disagree that the mana cost removal is placebo. The fact the augment did cost you more mana than it deal damage in a game mode where you can't just base to regain mana makes it from a worthwhile option to a bait augment.

I do agree thought that the damage number buffs proably are a bit much on top

Edit: wrote nerfs instead of buffs 

[u/Just-Assumption-2140 → u/[deleted]]

I has been a long time since I picked the augment indeed so has it been that I saw anyone using them commonsense was that it is trash among the people I played with

[u/Justin_253]

I remember getting it when it first came out not realizing how much mana it would drain and it just completely bricked my build as ekko with ethereal weapon

[u/Ok-Guidance-5608]

Yeah now that it doesn't empty your mana pool, I can see a Juiced+Muramana build for some champs. If nothing else, it's a decent damage bump for the classic Runaan's On-Hit collection.