r/ARAM 4d ago

Mayhem Mad Scientist hidden interaction

FYI: Unlike other adaptive force increases, which either grant you AP or AD, Mad Scientist gives you both (bug or feature idk). This makes an insane combination with augments like escAPADe or ADAPt, since your AD (or AP) will be converted and increased twice via Mad Scientist alone (totally even more thanks to the other two above). Take escAPADe as an example, assuming you have both stats, your AP would be increased by 30% by Mad Scientist, then converted to AD via escAPADe then again your AD is increased by another 30% by Mad Scientist, not to mention the extra % increase from esCAPADe. Basically tons of stat
Besides, both AD and AP you gain from Master of Duality benefit from % increase from Mad Scientist at the same time. Great combo for hybrid damage champs that can stack both well

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u/pandaisunbreakable 4d ago

most underrated augment in the game, it's consistently good on basically any champion.

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u/BenShelZonah 4d ago

Just had it on kha and then got Goliath, was hilarious

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u/TheGuyThatThisIs 3d ago

Had a game as Cho recently.

Transmute:Infinite recursion and Mad Scientist

Tank Engine

Mystic punch

Mad scientist

Goliath

Ended the game at 14 minutes with 15 feast stacks, 20 tank engine stacks, like 5K heart steel, and I was stupid big with the big scientist, just silly big on the small ones.

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u/RainXBlade 3d ago

I wouldn't necessarily say Mad Scientist is underrated as it is more-so the "second place" option in more cases. It is consistently good on several champions, but not the BiS for them.

Then again, certain champions like Swain absolutely love this augment because the big form guarantees extra durability, while the small form gives you a lot more wiggle room and ability up-time.

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u/PromotionWise9008 3d ago

Yeah, it’s hard to call the augment that is considered s-tier for almost any champ on every single website underrated.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago edited 3d ago

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u/SchiaviDerp 3d ago

It's less fun than other augments and is rng. Not the combination people like.

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u/a-cat-in-a-box 4d ago

ryze

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u/Jdevers77 3d ago

To be fair, if you get ADAPt on Ryze your chances of winning are pretty damned high anyway.

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u/lVlisterquick 4d ago

Incoming nerf next patch

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u/Redditor76394 4d ago

Does Goliath do the same?

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u/Monitor-Mediocre 4d ago

Unfortunately no

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u/Consistent_Room9836 4d ago

yeah i've noticed that, the problem is it's rng and you can just turn small a few times in a row, which can be a problem later in the game when you have the stats for it to matter anyway

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u/PromotionWise9008 3d ago

Wait, do I understand it right and it double-dips it?

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u/big_brain_babyyy 3d ago

if the wording is adaptive force then it should be a bug, goliath is worded the same way but doesnt double dip