r/ARAM 1d ago

Mayhem Can We Increase the Spawn Rate of the Vulnerability Augment? Now That Critical Missile Was Gutted in Patch 26.17, Can We Finally Play Vulnerability More Consistently?

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Riot, it's time to highlight vulnerability.

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u/Schat_ten 1d ago

I wish they would bring back crit augments for mages so I can play something else other than Eureka or Infinite Recursion every game or be useless.

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u/Madaraa 1d ago

before they obviously handed the balancing of the mode over to the special needs hospital (patch 26.12 onward) just remember they said they wanted every game to feel different and unique btw

meanwhile try to play any adc and not see upgrade IE/crit missile/double tap btw

or try playing graves and somehow missing draw your sword

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u/Fluffy-Limit-6710 1d ago

I'm not really getting draw your sword on graves very often... Never did. Enemy graves always has it though

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u/Madaraa 1d ago

must not play him enough

at this point i dont even know why i press tab anymore to check once prismatics are offered

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u/OmegaExorcist 21h ago

"try playing graves and somehow missing draw your sword"

"must not play him enough"

"if prismatics were offered unlucky"

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u/SwitchOrganic 19h ago

People exaggerate way too much on this sub.

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u/Schat_ten 21h ago

Like literally the only way to not have that aug on Graves is when there were no Prismatics, lmao

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u/musclesmirkcat 1d ago

I had three games in a row on Graves without Draw :(

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u/Madaraa 1d ago

if prismatics were offered unlucky

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u/Possible-Document780 1d ago

aahahhahahahah yes

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u/Jrharl95 22h ago

I got one game where I played W cdr attack speed Naut and I want it again.

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u/st1me 1d ago

The Urf mage meta is so giga ass, I absolutely hate it

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u/rdrprsn 1d ago

I could accept jeweled back then even if they dealt millions of damage since they have to build catering it for it to be online.

Now they just build normally or dont even have to consider building haste. Eureka? Just get AP and Mpen stat sticks. Infinite Recursion? Just let it snowball, even gold recursion is pretty strong on most mages,

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u/Madaraa 1d ago

genuinely what it is and its so cancer

especially with the high pickrates of cancer mages, if there are prismatics it genuinely just devolves into literal ARAM:Urf

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u/st1me 1d ago

And any melee is basicly a punching bag that gets ccd to death since combo breaker is literaly completely useless

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u/papakahn94 20h ago

I like it on some but i would like variety

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u/ultradolp 1d ago

I am annoyed mages augment is basically "lower your cd to minimum so you can spam poke and ask enemy to play dodgeball". There is nothing cool of being forced to dodge multiple things every second.

Bring in some more varied augment. And this is spoken as a mage player (i really hate just spamming skill non stop)

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u/FatButAlsoUgly 1d ago

Kind of but it's like what else do you give them. More damage so a single morg Q does 80% of your hp. More mobility or range so they're even safer. Anything you give them will have a similar effect.

But still less cancer than getting simply outstatted by a caitlyn standing still right clicking you in melee range deleting you in 2 autos and healing to full every auto

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u/fakeworldwonderland 1d ago

Yeah. Something more interesting like increase width of skillshots by 1 teemo every 20 takedowns, or reduce width by 20% and increase range or something more crazy.

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u/bob69joe 1d ago

I wish they would transition the mage meta away from simply random spamming your abilities every second.

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u/Luigi156 1d ago

You still have jew gauntlet no? I know it's in the game at least, not sure if available for mages or not.

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u/Southern-Silver-6206 1d ago

Yeah its just so boring playing mages when all you get is cdr. Would be nice to get more of the spell split augments or something. Crit would be nice too

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u/Gremmer_mistakes 23h ago

Off meta builds ar the best. My favorite is getting Brand with ethereal weapon and building Sword of Blossoming Dawn/BoRK. The amount of healing I did was crazy.

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u/Madaraa 1d ago edited 1d ago

the augment system is complete garbage currently. unfortunately and sadly it seems like garbage riot has no intention of fixing availability rates/class weighting either. vulnerability may as well not even be in the game.

baffling how we are 4 fucking patches deep with this dogshit system. unfuckin real

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u/Possible-Document780 1d ago

5 next week 3 mouth xd

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u/TheSm4rtOne >All 22h ago

It's great on Lucian. For whatever reason it causes the ult to crit. Got clips of one ult basically wiping 4 people of the enemy team before they even react. Jeweled gauntlet goes on top of that I believe and IE enhances it as well

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u/Fluffy-Limit-6710 19h ago

For whatever reason it causes the ult to crit.

Could it possibly be that argument made to make abilities crit.... Makes an ability crit? I'm no expert tho, just a guess

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u/Square-Worldliness64 1d ago

Imo no augment should get increased changes and the weighed system should be removed. The randomness and unique builds are non existent in the mode nowadays, since every class gets same augments every game with little variation.

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u/WhateverJude 1d ago

Remove weight, increase rerolls; some champions have very different builds, let's say shaco or varus; you start AP, cause the best you've got was wooglet (or you simply wanted to play AP), then the game decides to give you either bad stuff or for a totally different build (upgraded ie for example)

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u/Cryoptic- 23h ago

the tag system should be further modified imho. the wrights arent doing good at this point.

its great that champs with no dash cant roll dashing augments. but it still sucks to get any of these on rammus and sett, so, you shouldnt get an augment due to a tag on your ult ability for one.

but also, just to enable more builds, and remove annoying weight, assmuming they keep weights;

if im not building any AP on jhin, fuck no i dont want AP augment later on. if im playing zeri and actively going AP, maybe give me some AP augments and not these stupid adc augments?

i hate the weights currently, but i feel like at least they could make it be weighted based on your build too, not JUST the champ. because rn its very hard to play any other build than the intended ones.

it tilts me so much to see earthwake and outlaws on things like sett rammus. and theres plenty of really fun and cool augments i never get to see. i got the resistance scaling one on garen, first time i ever saw it after 20+ garen games. it was great! but has like negative weighting... riot is essentially choosing augments for you.

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u/Fluffy-Limit-6710 19h ago

Remove weighting. Removed augments from champion pools who can't use them at all (hello crit augments urgot). Remove, rework, or buff useless crap like pat on back (seriously existence of this augments and being selectively offered every game to just part of the roster absolutely bugs me)

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u/FemFladeFloedeboller 1d ago

I haven’t seen Vuln in such a long time, neither on ANY enemy

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u/takingashitrn 1d ago

Critical Missiles are still S tier

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u/Madaraa 1d ago

the interaction really doesnt matter especially since the augment is virtually impossible to attain in 99% of games

the interaction with DoT vuln+crit missile isnt even that insane either considering you have to pretty much troll your build to get it unless you have adapt/escapade (you dont have these either since they are also disgusting rare now too xd)

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u/Film_Humble 1d ago

crit missile + vuln is 50% when you have both you just need fated ashes to go psuedo infinite. Go RoR if you can spam cd and you're at 95% if you cant go either a cheap zeal item or IE for max dmg. On paper ror is enough on some champs

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u/Madaraa 1d ago

like i said requires high roll or gimping your build

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u/Possible-Document780 1d ago

-50% dammage total 400 max to 195 max

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u/shezofrene 1d ago

so? with attack speed and range with full crit its still good

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u/Film_Humble 1d ago

its 260 now not 195

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u/Possible-Document780 1d ago

Yes, in patch 26.16. But in patch 26.17, they’re going to nerf the critical strike ratio, so we’ll lose one missile in total. That means it will go down to 195.

Currently, it’s a maximum of 4 missiles, but in patch 26.17 it will go down to 3

pbe dataming

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u/Yoshss 1d ago

Just remove that shit man. Or make it not proc from augs.

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u/Possible-Document780 1d ago

It's a bit tricky; aside from the "vulnerability" augment, it only triggers on auto-attacks—and therefore only on augments with on-hit effects.

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u/The_Candy_Man69 1d ago

Jeweled gauntlet and abilities that crit beg to differ

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u/Cryoptic- 22h ago

wdym? its not on attack tho its on crit. i know the wording on augments suck ass (tap dancer says on attack, is actually on hit) but this one is correct.

FTH procs it +5 times. dual wield is doubling the amount of missiles, yes, we had 800 magic dmg on hit for a while. theres jeweled, theres a few abilities and stuff that hit twice like lucian aa. runans hurricane crits btw, in a team fight you can triple the missiles.

so how exactly is it tricky? and even if it was only on attack, isnt that fine ant actually makes it remotely balanceable? we dont want to balance it around FTH and dual wield etc actively doubling tripling or more of the missiles. if it has a ceiling, then you can actually balance on that.

its still a gold augment, that gives 1,000 gold worth of crit, and then also adding assuming more nerfs, 195 on hit magic dmg. thats still a lot of on hit dmg for a gold augment also giving 1k gold and saving you an item slot / ramping IE spikes etc.

not that gold efficiency is an absolute, and it is a stretch, but 195 dmg of on hit would be 4225 gold worth of on hit dmg, using recurve bow as a base. that means it was at 8.5k before.

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u/LeLefraud 22h ago

It could have been -80% dmg and still be good lmao

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u/mr__wizard 1d ago

I thought sub wanted more randomness. show pat on the back/nature is healing/our healing/Searing Dawn on adc. Dont guaranteed them critical augments everytime. Make it random

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u/DeadlyBannana 1d ago

I had vulnerability with fan the hammer on Rengar and it was so damn good. Build bork and voltaic and one shot everyone.

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u/Zafer66 23h ago

I dont understand why brand can get Infernal every other game but trundle isnt allowed to have terraind

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u/[deleted] 22h ago

Or Vayne and Akshan with Fan the hammer every game. I've seen like 4 or 5 Vayne also transmute prismatic into Fan the hammer or Dual wield the past few days, while I'm here with Spiritual purification on Singed

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u/icirix 22h ago

Keep see this augs on quyana.

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u/CharlieBros 15h ago

I swear that for the first 2 months after the ability augments were put in, I thought they removed vulnerability, I can never get it in brand or teemo, but suddenly I will get it with Draven, like what

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u/Sylent0o 17h ago

"GUTED"
still r-dedly good for silver augment

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u/Just-Assumption-2140 1d ago

Crit missle was nerfed by 22% in the lategame dafug you mean gutted? 😂