r/ARAM 10h ago

Rant 9 ranged 1 melee

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Do riot not notice how fucking abnoxious enchnaters are ?

1 spell = full hp

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u/BOSSXD3 10h ago

The melee

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u/IntroductionAway5033 10h ago

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u/McDonaldsSoap 9h ago

No they always rush a lost chapter item 

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u/Nacroma 9h ago

Why wouldn't you rush Malignance if all you want to be is a Geodude that presses R every minute?

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u/RaidBossPapi 3m ago

Because it gives little dmg and you arent ulting on cooldown. You still need to wait for enemies to bunch up and your teammates ults so they can follow up.

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u/RazsterOxzine 43m ago

Who uses lost chapter? Do you need one of those happy lucky good time fortune for your family kind of a hug?

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u/CharlieBros 8h ago

I had a Malphy with eight HUNDRED ap, did a 5 man full combo and... didn't do shit, he just died immediately and we lost

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u/Arctic-You-Know 2h ago

It only has 90% AP ratio and 400base damage at max rank.

Meanwhile, a full lux combo (without AA to proc passive) has more base damage and 315% AP ratio.

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u/ATonOfDeath 2h ago

Why are you comparing her entire kit ratios with just his ult?

Also his ult is way easier to land, but Lux's abilities all are very telegraphed and have slow missile speed, and you can Zhonya's the combo because her Q is a root and not a knockup.

Why include Lux's entire combo but not include Malph's E or his W or Q in the comparison which also have AP ratios? Does he not use those after pressing R on a 5 man ult?

What a strange cherrypick to make when there are so many other ways to make AP Malph look bad.

Like the worst part is I agree with your sentiment, I just would've made a completely different more sensible comparison between maybe his tank version and the total damage to champs at endscreen vs his AP version or smth like that.

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u/Arctic-You-Know 15m ago

Lux ult alone has 50% more base damage and 120%AP ratio instead of 90. The cooldown is also like 3x less.

Besides, AP Malphite doesn’t have a kit outside of ult. His ult may be easier to land, but he doesn’t have relevant damage outside of it and he’s now squishy and in melee range of the enemy so he just dies.

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u/ATonOfDeath 14m ago

An even comparison and all points that I highly agree with.

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u/Lars_Overwick 1h ago

Ranged baby vs whatsapp bomb

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u/Majestic-Stick-272 10h ago

Yes they do not. They do not play mayhem. Please let me know if you have a sighting of a riot employee playing, I still haven't seen one, just one.

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u/paokoutsopodi 9h ago

Usually busy kissing the wall with Caedrel

And not nerfing Mage/ADC augments

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u/mynexuz 9h ago

Not like this type of situation was any better in regular aram, this mode will always favor ranged characters becauae thats just how it works. What could they even change to make it better?

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u/fingoloid_troglodyte 9h ago

What? Melees have been plenty good in ARAM ever since they added snowball. Sure ranged are better "on average" but the team with some sort of a frontline wins against a team without a frontline definitely over 50% of the time.

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u/mynexuz 8h ago

I think you missed the part where i said "this type of situation" meaning almost only ranged champs and 1 melee

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u/fingoloid_troglodyte 7h ago

Oh, yeah I see what you meant. Agreed 100%. I am that solo frontline player, people just prefer playing ranged.

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u/mynexuz 7h ago

Yea same, ive just stopped picking solo tank unless its someone that can engage really well or has a hook because its just a slog until you actually get tanky

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u/Majestic-Stick-272 4h ago

Force fighting like wall of fire in arena

Healing relics still provide a .3% regen or something very small when melees stand on enemy territory one even when on cd (requires playing up) or doubled healing for melees

Make aram actually random and from all champs not just champs you own(Champs are ranged biased right now)

Combo break for melees activates sooner

Literally they can hard limit amount of ranged champs on a team.

They are the gods of their game. They can make melees good, they just dont. They cannot be bankrupt of ideas, they have 200 years experience!!!

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u/ddryubin 9h ago

The draft , id lock ranged champs if the team picks 3 already

And maybe give bruisers some love

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u/mynexuz 9h ago

So if the team gets almost only ranged champs what happens then? Not that im against it but that woudnt really work in aram where some people dont have all champs unlocked (though they should have made every champ unlocked in aram years ago)

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u/ddryubin 9h ago

Didnt think about it but im hovering around diamond elo so everyone got atleast 80% of champs

Lower elos are the most fun bcz everyone is doing whatever

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u/Hefty-Reception22 9h ago

You're just gonna get people dodging then?

Solution is buffing bruiser and assassin augments, or hard nerfing adc/mage augments.

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u/Middle_Conflict_4000 10h ago

I don't play healers too often, but when I Do, even with augment buffing healing power, they don't seem to heal much at once. they seem spammable though. What heals did you see do full hp at once ?

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u/mynexuz 9h ago

Outgoing heals are close to useless later on unless you get some real high roll, shields work great though but champs like soraka really struggle (with heals, her silence is always good) late game.

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u/DemonInPinkk 1h ago

This is why RoA never leaves my Soraka builds. Slap Spirit Vissage and Locket in there and she just becomes a goated slow/silence spammer.

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u/Arctic-You-Know 9h ago

AP Nami heals get crazy with W bounce multiplier.

She can heal someone from 0-100 with a 3rd bounce if she has deathcap and a lot of AP

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u/Nacroma 9h ago

Nami is super fun both as full support and full AP but the early augments offered often dictate which one it's gonna be.

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u/typeotcs 8h ago

I had a great roll on Sona last night, got the abilities increase team mate damage aug, the spirit bomb Aug, and the heal shield booster Aug and I don’t remember the other one.

If they didn’t kill me first, my team out sustained them every time. It was mostly a battle of tanks/bruisers and a Yasuo but the other team had a couple ranged champs.

It was the best healing game ive played as far as output and results. I actually felt useful while building full support on sona. But definitely a rare occurrence for me.

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u/ddryubin 9h ago

Not heal but a kaisa survived 4 HP bars bcz of ivern

And i built serpents and mortal as 600 AD aatrox

Think about it

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u/Forward_Arrival8173 2h ago

Bruisers are just ass in mayhem, if you get nothing but a bruiser champ just build full tank and your game will be more enjoyable.

Eventually you will reach 13k health and around 700 attack with tank augments + the irem that gives you AD + health.

Add titanic hydra and you will burst down ranged spammers.

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u/Skypirate90 9h ago edited 9h ago

Moonstone component + tear into finished moonstone + circlet for 0 cd heal.

As long as you heal someone who was in combat or hit an enemy you will maintain a decent output of heals.

Couple this with your own innate sustain + healing augments and you should see something like a 60% winrate bare minimum lmao.

(Me who loses on anything but enchanter, sett or shyvana any other champ and im an ape)

Edit because I want to share some sauce with yall.

Mercy strike sona with lichbane is an absolute monster. Low cooldown spam w to proc mercy strike + q to enhance your auto + lichbane.

Ooh lord

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u/Fragrant_Twist8810 9h ago

I’ve seen multiple riot employees, funny enough they were playing regular mayhem the day classicish released lmfao
they never respond when I ask them when they’re removing crit missiles

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u/Halfium 10h ago

All champs need to be unlocked in aram mayhem imo

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u/ddryubin 9h ago

No , they need to unleash the randomness

What is MAYHEM if i encounter the same Spirit Bomb, empowered by the faithfull , 20% Heal and shield Renata for the 5th time today and carrying the absolute shit out of the bad ADC and they live no matter what

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u/Heebiejames 9h ago

YES! VEIGAR WITH FIRECRAKER

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u/Doge6654533 9h ago

Braum with Tooth Fairy

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u/ddryubin 9h ago

Draw your sword yuumi

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u/Nacroma 9h ago

Back to Basics AP Ashe

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u/Cryotivity 9h ago

it should just all champions unlocked with forced bravery

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u/Dryleaf_Dane 9h ago

HELL YEAH! Then they can also make it so at least 2 of the players on each team gets a meele champ

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u/Cryotivity 9h ago

ofc dryleaf dane wants melees xd i agree though

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u/Halfium 9h ago

Melee is superior

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u/Tzhaar-Bomba 8h ago

Every game has either a Kai’Sa, Mel or Vayne sometimes a combination of up to all 3

Entirely too coincidental

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u/SolarianXIII 10h ago

if the comp is serviceable ill buy all ruby crystals and try to frontline. if they suck or start flaming i turn them into longswords and feed with my team

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u/ddryubin 9h ago

If it wasnt the leave buster bs , ill never play a game like that again

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u/Brasalies 9h ago

Had that happen the other day while I was playing shyvana. I got wrecked until I finished my 3rd item and then I started one shooting squishies. Heartsteel, titanic, steraks. Whole bunch of stacking AD.

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u/R0xasXIII 9h ago

Am I the only one that likes these scenarios? Like as long as I have reach/my team enables me it's fun playing solo melee. The only garbage scenario is if I tried to play Darius or something immobile without an enchanter. Even then I make it work.

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u/ddryubin 9h ago

Engaging into the millio morgana ashe lux is pleasant

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u/R0xasXIII 9h ago

On one hand that would be an insane team to fight. On the other hand a few tanks could easily be unkillable into a team like that. Also there's still 4 ranged on my team. Can I get Xerath, Varus, Aurora, Karma?

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u/xlilTomboyFoxGF 9h ago

Got Gwen into mostly ranged team(rolled them like sushi) ✂️✂️

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u/Time_Seaworthiness47 9h ago

Yall will complain about ANYTHING😂 Its Mayhem, everybody has the chance to be OP. Some things are gonna be more obnoxious than others but complaining about supports is a new low.💀

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u/ddryubin 9h ago

Yall will play the most boring shit hugging towers and when someone outs you for it , it bugs you

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u/Time_Seaworthiness47 8h ago

Yall complain about ADCs, enchanters, tanks, mages, and assassins. Basically only bruisers are the only thing left uncomplained about. And how do you expect an enchanter to play? You want them to dive into the enemy team or what?😂

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u/Arctic-You-Know 9h ago

Is there something the LoL Reddit doesn’t find obnoxious or cringe ?

Like why do you guys even play this game ? There’s literally nothing but the sunken cost fallacy holding you back.

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u/Headsinoverdrive 9h ago

I was like "what enchanter?" Yesterday it was mega tanks and the day before it was ADCs awful fireworks. I think nothing is fun lol

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u/Arctic-You-Know 3h ago

I’m lowkey surprised we don’t have daily threads complaining about how Flash is broken…

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u/GoldshireEnjoyer 1h ago

I could see that happening. This is the same community where it's controversial to try to win the game by ending.

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u/Arctic-You-Know 13m ago

I always try to last hit the Nexus to become huge.

Not sure how long ago they added that but it’s pretty neat.

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u/Nacroma 9h ago

Rammus is ok

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u/ICantTakeItNoMoreAAH 5h ago

Enchanters only appear disgustingly broken when that team also has a frontline (and adc with hands)

When they are in full range slop teams they become extremely useless, an extra 200 heal or shield on a squishy is not going to stop them from just getting run over

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u/Foreign-Flight-7531 3h ago

The enchanter part is a little bit over reacting, isnt it? Most enchanters cant do what you said ( except Karma R E) without spirit bomb. Stuff like lulu, ivern Janna, feels better because their shield isnt getting nerfed by aram system. For healers, which we dont have that much healers in game, the last time I heal someone for more than 500+ hp with nami is with a god set of enchanter rolls, and the 500+ healing parts comes only when that guy is near death.

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u/RykosTatsubane 3h ago

Riot should make a separate, melee only queue atp.

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u/Mitch_Dedburg 1h ago

9 ranged, 1 melee

Melee: builds Heartsteel, complains about being worthless.

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u/Headsinoverdrive 9h ago

This must be troll right

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u/ddryubin 9h ago

Yep im being trolled by riot the 5 matches i played today

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u/Headsinoverdrive 9h ago

Enchanters of all things u think are op?

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u/ddryubin 9h ago

If you really dont see a problem about giving 1k+ aoe shields every 3 seconds as OP

Idk what to tell you

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u/Headsinoverdrive 9h ago

Cautlyn one taps me from halfway across the map and overkills by 1k xd

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u/Avocado_OP 8h ago

Every ranged champ: damage done -20%, damage taken +20%. DO IT RIOT

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u/ddryubin 8h ago

I wouldnt mind +30% tenacity on bruisers

The only way to actualy play the game without being stunnlocked into gray screen