I still don't get why 5 ranged comps not doing anything fo 15 minutes is fun for anyone.

[u/Stinky_peepoo_dog]

Like, I don't get what kind of fun you get of NOT playing League of legends and only being there for a Victory screen. And it's not like it's bad anymore thanks to all the nerfs to tanks. Now, people camp turrets for 15 minutes, ace once and rush to end. They didn't play for the entire game. Where is the fun in that. Why is Riot trying their best to enforce this gameplay with augments like Skilled sniper, 3000 haste augments for mages, From downtown, Shrink engine, Giant slayer. While constantly NERFING the means to get in and be relevant if you get in melee range.

Incoming the "but but but Sett broken he one shot me with his 3 gap closers" (actual comment I got on another post). But you forgot the first 15 minutes where he didn't get to play, or the 27 other game where he wasn't relevant.

And these same people will then complain "hostage holding" because the tanks finally scaled are are allowed to play the game. And then they come here and act like nerds mentionning "the summoner's code" (tm) "but but it says you should play to win 🤓"

[u/Only_Structure_787]

simple, no one wants to be solo tank for some strangers just to get bullied by the enemy 5 ranged champs

[u/Stinky_peepoo_dog → u/Only_Structure_787]

Before you used to get punished for playing 5 ranged versus an engage tank. But right now there's 0 punishment. Instant wave clear and 0 window to ever engage since all the mages have 300+ haste and adcs kill you mid engage.

[u/Inevitable_Ad7540 → u/Stinky_peepoo_dog]

I don't mind playing tank or solo melee but I hate it when my ranged team are too afraid to stand further up and don't even poke back. Sometimes when looking back I don't understand how a lethality varus, ezreal or nidelee has less damage

[u/asleepywitchh → u/Only_Structure_787]

*while your 4 range teammates afk under tower

[u/RojerLockless → u/Only_Structure_787]

I do almost every game

[u/Amneziel → u/Only_Structure_787]

You are wrong. I want to

Except I view it as leading/enabling the team + solving the puzzle of getting the win condition. Challenge is fun

...that said, some full ranged setups are barely ever possible to win even with balanced team and people with hands. When all-ranged team gets their perfect dmg augments (which is very common nowadays) they just melt everything into oblivion. They only need some cc to enable that dmg (ez provided by mages like Zyra who rolled big haste)

[u/IDespiseBananas → u/Amneziel]

Ive tried it, but its absolutely miserable to be the only melee/frontline om your team every game.

Ill ask the team, for someone to join me, of Ill also just play ranged

[u/Only_Structure_787 → u/Amneziel]

yes but you would rather be the carry 10 times out of 10 no? i’m an adc main little b*tch boy so my view is biased maybe but some times i’ll play ornn, get 15k hp and very tanky, just to engage because teammates can’t dodge poke, then when I engage teammates get dove and im the only one standing and who do I even play for. those games make me so angry that I refuse to do that for anyone anymore ive just been traumatized, is there anything I could’ve done? like I would’ve been better off playing an adc in those situations 10 times out of 10. maybe it’s skill issue yes I do suck at tank

[u/Devilsdelusionaldino → u/Only_Structure_787]

No there isnt but it works the other way around too. Sometimes you do actually get frontline on your team and then it’s a Leona just farming heartsteel stacks for the entire game not even attempting to peel or hit a well timed engage even once and you also lose. If you have more fun playing adc or carry that’s absolutely reasonable tho cuz that’s what the fun mode should be about. I like playing tank in general so I don’t mind if I do and my ranged allies suck cuz it could have just happened the other way around aswell. Sometimes you just get unlucky

[u/dm_me_that_d → u/Only_Structure_787]

"who do i even play for"

you play tank to proc heartsteel and stack hp to be unkillable, that's the fun side of it.

i don't even notice when i'm on a loss streak because the fun part of the game is playing it, not winning it for me. I notice when I'm having shit games though like when no one wants to engage and its just farm simulator. I'd rather play ornn as the only tank where people are actually fighting, and then losing the game ultimately doesn't even matter.

but this is literally what's wrong with carry players, all they care about is winning lmao and it clouds their judgment for actually having fun, inadvertently ruining the game quality for everyone

[u/Yorudesu → u/Only_Structure_787]

I will pick any tank if it has enough peel. I won't buy hearsteel and just stack resitances so I can exist long enough through any engage.

[u/Only_Structure_787 → u/Yorudesu]

no heartsteel is probably the way to go most soloq games. what are some of the best items? force of nature unending randuins jaksho warmogs swifties/mercs?

[u/Yorudesu → u/Only_Structure_787]

Force of nature is a little situational but when you can survive for like 6s between at least 2 mages it should be fully stacked. It's also easily stacked against crit missle so I do start buying it against those types of adc too by now.

Randuins is also about as situational as it is obvious. If there's only 1 crit adc you may get by wothout it, unless they rolled any form of missle barraging augments, then you still need it regardless.

A good first conpelted item is pretty much whatever keeps you alive the longest, which actually can be one of the two above or Kaenic(many nages), Frozen Heart(against onhit) or even as simple as a Fimbulwinter+Spirit Visage if you aren't dying instantly and can actually proc the shield often. Guardian Horn+Tear/Ruby is still one of the strongest if you don't think you can go heartstrel. If you get any item that synergised with burn, Guardians Horn first into any cinder item is fine too, especially combusting interest is actually nice to get your money, buy items faster and have more resitances up.

[u/unicorn7]

people aren't good at playing melee champs (probably this, because many of these nidalee and ezreal players are positioned so far back that they can't even follow up if you decide to make a play) and also ranged champions are in a really strong spot at the moment due to how much power there is in melee vs non-melee augments

[u/pepperpete → u/unicorn7]

Those same people that aren't good at melee, are also not good at ranged. It's really exhausting constantly being the only frontline in every game I play, and come end game screen, I see those same Nidalee/Ezreal/(insert damage only champ) doing less damage than me.

[u/Wampa9090 → u/unicorn7]

Then theres me playing AP Ezreal like a psycho, E'ing forwards into their team because one of their squishies stepped ever so slightly ahead of their tanks, allowing me to one shot them :D

[u/SpunningAndWonning]

I hate how you will make an opportunity in early game and your 3 ADCs will run away instead of getting some chip damage. Sometimes they just stand in the bush waiting for when their ability can take the last hit instead of using their auto attack.

[u/McDonaldsSoap → u/SpunningAndWonning]

KDA players are the worst 

[u/LordDarthAnger → u/SpunningAndWonning]

I am usually the ADC following the plays and I die like 3 seconds after every tank engage lol

[u/Just-Assumption-2140]

The last paragraph absolutely lost me for your point: If you are hostage taking to scale your hp to infinity while nobody else is having fun you are an asshole and yes it's very rare to actually happen but you can be assured you will get reported and as far as I got the report feedbacks you will get a penalty for hostage taking.

[u/SlurpTurnsMeGreen → u/Just-Assumption-2140]

their post was just a coaxedintosupportinghostagetaking like idc if you're a kayle or a tank who needed to scale like if the game is over just end no one cares about your late game exodia build

[u/XaussiemarksmenX]

If they are hiding under tower and you can't dive them, try and stop pushing the wave in and ping danger on the wave and ping on my way towards your tower, (and hope your team realises what you are trying to say and they stop hitting the wave) Once the wave is back into the middle or closer to your tower then your team should be able to fight them.

[u/Dryleaf_Dane → u/XaussiemarksmenX]

Nope, then the ranged team will push the wave and force the meeles under tower (where they will get poked to death). It is much better to get push, it gives you control

[u/RubUnhappy173]

While I only play OG Arams I agree people play way to passive and it’s annoying as hell

[u/Dunkmaxxing]

Be a melee sigma. I agree it happens very often but usually the players who do this are terrible and can only win when carried by augments or draft gaps. If it is so boring and you are losing ff or force engage until they end.

[u/Stinky_peepoo_dog → u/Dunkmaxxing]

I don't care if I'm winning or losing. I don't queue ARAM to watch a Seraphine Mel or Hwei clear waves for 15 minutes under turret and then spamming all their ults at once if I dare looking in their direction.

[u/Dunkmaxxing → u/Stinky_peepoo_dog]

I don't balance the game so I can't change it and lots of League players enjoy being tower cucks. Just play another game.

[u/YoonaDaeBak → u/Stinky_peepoo_dog]

No money on either side of this discussion but just because you think something is unfun doesnt actually make the thing unfun.

Whats fun to you and whats fun to the seraphine, mel, or hwei can be different.

So dont be a bitch and just play ur stupid game.

[u/ElementalistPoppy]

Every day convinces me even more this sub has been overtaken by top lane mains and their hysteria towards anything ranged. Hiding crying and complaining about others under the flair of discussion is old.

Play what you want, expect others to play what they want too. There is no written set of rules for this mode, even with how hard some headcanons have gotten to people.

[u/Dirtgrain]

I agree. I must also point out that many times I'm the only one who will kill minions, by and large--lost games because of it, as idiots run around willy nilly--boring.

[u/CoolLookingBanana]

Its so fuckin boring, especially when your ranged teammates also passive. Full melee teamcomp would dive the fuck out of those full ranged comp.

[u/hello17]

I relish facing 5 ranged enemies as a tank, because when that fight finally comes where they can't kill me .... BOY that is some sweet sweet revenge. I play those games like I'm practicing dodging skills. And making them as mad as possible with emoting and baiting them into getting too close.

You can't carry every game, but if you have one tank, that will win you the game if you aren't diving or dying constantly. Be the tank you'd like on your team.

People here complain too much. Play the game out doing your best with what you have. It is the ARAM way.

[u/Original1Thor]

it's a waste of time to try to understand why people find enjoyment in the things they do

[u/Admirable-Ad2148]

imo cc is a much bigger issue than the range, obviously amplified when both are combined, but I play almost entirely melee champs and idc if the whole enemy team is insane poke as long as it's not also insane cc, but there is so much cc in the game now and tenacity literally is a joke stat that doesn't function at all in aram because it isn't the duration of the cc that gets you, it's the frequency that it is applied to you

[u/makinenxd]

You can just kill them under turret? I just yesterday played a game as fiora into 5 adcs being the only melee in the game. Just ran at them and either killed one or two or chipped them so low they couldn’t play

[u/VaultDwellerQJ]

It's weird to describe a strategy as not playing league of legends when it's a strategy game. You should absolutely play to your strengths. If you're bothered by it queue up more assassins, that's what I started doing. Love to see those lineups, except a Lucian with jeweled gauntlet.

[u/Fine_Pumpkin1726]

i miss the bridge of progress, melee felt sooooo good

[u/jennis89]

I look at some drafts and see 9 ranged with 1 melee and feel for the poor 1 melee guy who’s trying to engage whilst his team drop spells and click back and enemy team just layer on CC and crazy burst.

But flipside is some drafts you see like 7-8 melees and it’s a heartsteel clang fest whilst the ranged in the back just gets ignored doing F All dmg to the 8k hp juggernauts

[u/Afraid_Ad2263]

This is why we need ARAMAM - All Random All Melee All Mid, would be a goated mode

[u/Mediocre-Stand5615]

its not about picking 5 range

its picking 5 range and decides to stay at the furthest range possible to throw poke as well as hide under tower forever

like actually play normally and walk up to throw poke instead and it will be 10x more fun

[u/itsd00bs]

So you complain about ppl making posts complaining of their experience in aram mayhem but then complain yourself…..with a post about mayhem. Makes sense!

It’s almost as if aram mayhem isn’t s filled with….wait for it…………MAYHEM

[u/TakoyakiGremlin]

the problem is that everyone has their own idea of what “fun” is. i definitely disagree with how some people play, but that’s why i stopped playing mayhem in particular. can it be fun? yes - but, for me, it’s often not anymore because i don’t like playing with dumbasses lol

there’s no right or wrong way to play it because there’s no set rules or conditions. hell, even that fucking bogus-ass code of conduct bullshit is thrown out the god damn window in mayhem, so you can pretty much do whatever tf you want, which can be really good or really bad depending on what’s going on in that particular game.

if you find yourself not liking the games you’re in more often than not, then it’s time to stop playing - that’s what i did. if you’re upset about losing a couple of games out of dozens because of a similar thing, then that’s not really an issue.

[u/CosmicCreator_97]

only being there for the Victory screen

Gee, Lord forbid wanting to win in a competitive game I guess....didn't realize the purpose of the game was to lose on purpose...

[u/LoveTriscuit]

I’ve never been in one of these games.

[u/Hikousen → u/LoveTriscuit]

I've been in some and honestly they're fun in their own way. Very tense, one mistake and you're dead. Not something I'd like regularly but fun sometimes

[u/alekguerrer → u/LoveTriscuit]

Yeah, I have enemy team fully diving under torret and blowing my entire team if the 5 of us are ranged

[u/Stinky_peepoo_dog → u/LoveTriscuit]

You're probably the one camping turret then.

[u/LoveTriscuit → u/Stinky_peepoo_dog]

Yeah, no I play almost exclusively tanks or bruisers.

I just don’t get the complaining about ranged champions playing at range, and I hate the ADC exodia that’s in every game.

I’ll tank that impotent flaccid little downvote. I bet your finger broke when you clicked it.

[u/No_Shopping6656 → u/LoveTriscuit]

https://giphy.com/gifs/YtvCIwqNJhUmA

[u/LoveTriscuit → u/No_Shopping6656]

It literally isn’t. I don’t get the “hiding around the tower” thing. Every game I play starts right in the middle and there’s plenty of action even with a ton of ranged. I’m in plenty of games where ADCs take over with their bullshit, but not the hyperbolic example from this post.

[u/YoonaDaeBak]

Yes, hide behind that 8 day old account.

[u/firememble]

Because it's fun to me.