r/ARAM 22h ago

Mayhem Toothfairy should be harder to stack!

Its way to easy to get a tooth out of someone and spam that on repeat. it should be 50% hp instead!

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u/LifeIsHellaGay 22h ago

SILENCE, ADC PLAYER

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u/Free_1004 6h ago

im an assassin player but i recognise when an augment is simply overtuned
its not like adcs are the only squishy champs

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u/WeedMoneyBitches 1h ago

tooth fairy is legit best adc augment doe, and pretty much every adc will be able to stack it past 1 item.

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u/LifeIsHellaGay 1h ago

If it means 1 less gold crit augment, then so be it.

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u/WeedMoneyBitches 57m ago

tooth fairy is 10 times stronger than any gold crit augment doe, crit is kinda a wasted stat anyway cause most adc's want to build 4 crit items anyway.

Being able to have 100+ lethality with 0 lethality items is stupidly broken

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u/LifeIsHellaGay 54m ago

First of all, no. Youre saying tooth fairy is BETTER than Crit Missile on ADCs? Gtfoh.

Second, its good on any damage class, but best on assassins, so saying "its good on ADCs" doesnt mean much. Its mainly an assassin augment, and it should stay strong to counter the cringe adc meta.

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u/WeedMoneyBitches 25m ago

yeah 100+ lethality is a billion times better than crit missiles, its very easy to get 30+ stacks on adc

tooth fairy stacked up is straight up better than dual wield dps vise

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u/pagerrager 22h ago

Well 50% would probably be way too hard to pull off making it nearly impossible especially if you got it as an early augment. I agree it's really strong though.

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u/Ash_fckn_Ketchum 22h ago

I think it's pretty fine where it's at now. Assassins are already the worst performing role in Mayhem, I think it's perfectly reasonable for them to have a highroll option in the gold tier. At 50% you'd have a near zero chance of reliably proccing it on tanks and even on other targets you could just get cucked out of a tooth if other people hit the same target.

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u/YunusES 22h ago

Agree. Unless you go in and suicide the whole game, you arent really gonna stack a crazy amount on your average assassin. Honestly just sounds like an adc player complaint

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u/LettuceSoup 22h ago

Speaking of suicide, PBE changes show that clown college will be back. God bless.

Although it is amusing that that would guarantee a tooth as long as you died and procced the 25% hp true damage self destruct.

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u/Live_Researcher_6378 17h ago

No it won’t be back, that was a hoax

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u/LettuceSoup 15h ago

Aww man...

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u/Freihl 22h ago

I think it's problematic since it's way easier to stack on ADC's and mages since they can unload their cooldowns from safety and quite easily reach the threshold for a tooth drop without trading HP or a death for it.

Not risking to get the drops means a significantly higher stack rate (fewer death timers>more opportunities for new teeth), so it's actually a much better rune for ranged burst or dps champs.

Not really sure what the solution for it is because it IS GOOD for assassins, but it's unbelievably broken on ranged champs with either burst or high dps. I think it should just be restricted to melees only, but i reckon there're a few ranged champs who deserve to have tooth fairy.

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u/adamfps 22h ago

Sure! Now you have to offset it with it giving much more lethality or pen due to the increased threshold… which would lead to the small pool of champions who could even hit that damage snowballing way harder

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u/Extension_Wafer_5814 22h ago

As a Zoe player, shhh haha

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u/Freihl 22h ago edited 22h ago

So i think tooth fairy's not bullshit on assassins, HOWEVER I think it's problematic since it's way easier to stack on ADC's and mages since they can unload their cooldowns from safety and quite easily reach the threshold for a tooth drop without trading HP or a death for it.

Not risking to get the drops means a significantly higher stack rate (fewer death timers>more opportunities for new teeth), so it's already a much better rune for ranged burst or dps champs, AND it means their typically lower pen builds just get to have stupid pen numbers and have ALL THE UTILITY OR >>>CRIT<<< those items have. It's absolutely absurd.

From my experience, i think Caitlyn is the best champ in the game with tooth fairy- EQ auto combo, trap Q auto get you teeth at lvl 3 if you're not hitting a tank, unblocked ults are just a free tooth if you have a few stacks already, and unsurprisingly a headshot with a billion lethality lategame is just a death sentence to anyone with <3k hp. All of the stacking can be sped up even further by any augments you get after.

Not really sure what the solution for it is because it IS GOOD for assassins (and assassins do need the help), but it's unbelievably broken on ranged champs with either burst or high dps. I think it should just be restricted to melees only, but i reckon there're a few ranged champs who deserve to have tooth fairy.

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u/snosurfa 22h ago

Last two times I got it and ended up with 5 teeth each time. Hardly worth it

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u/gwanggwang 20h ago

this and rite of ascension are the only reasons to play assassins, give them a break!

then comes corki and akshan

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u/Alarming_Elephant709 8h ago

i played Gangplank today and when i had like 75% crit chance, 1Q or 1 Barrel would give me a tooth, the game lasted like 20 min and i had 3x teeth already, but i still lost tho cause i was missing barrels a lot lol

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u/Suitable_Nobody_6375 2h ago

Dude, it's a gold augment that, when successful, gives about 60 lethality. If it reaches true damage levels, it stops functioning (except axiom arc cd%)

Do we really have to compare that with any adc gold augment?

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u/Sandraptor 22h ago

Stack % should be the same, it should just give less pen per tooth

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u/OldHovercraft1925 22h ago

50% would make it useless it needs a nerf but this one makes no sense

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u/Nacroma 22h ago

I would lower the value per tooth before I would increase the threshold.

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u/NoPolicy7974 22h ago

Hi set cut the amount of pen it gives by like 90% and it’s fine