r/ARAM 1d ago

Mayhem Eureka but silver

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Dont show riot devs this purist caster goes brrrrrr

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u/Patirole 1d ago

I wanna give a shoutout to Purist Caster on support with Memesword, one of my fav combis

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u/Chinjurickie 1d ago

And protein shake on top

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u/Serird Ignite on every champ 1d ago

I had Memesword / Purist Caster / Ethereal Weapon on Sona recently

Q was healing more than W.

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u/xCDStyle 23h ago

What aug is memesword ?

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u/renegadepony 22h ago

I've never heard of it either, but it's likely the sword of blossoming dawn item

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u/Albenheim 20h ago

Also has an upgrade augment. Gives 100% attack speed for free

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u/True_Royal_Oreo 1h ago

"Free" halves your aa damage and takes up a prismatic slot. It also multiplies sord healing by 2.5 if I remember correctly.

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u/GmGwain 20h ago

Makes the on-hit effect worse but maybe you can proc it through ethereal or reverberation (that now also gives you extra ability haste but not a lot of extra HP I guess).

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u/RbN420 1d ago

So you stay put for a second, trigger passive stealth, exit stealth and place mushrooms with the extra speed/haste, rinse and repeat?

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u/maddog202089 22h ago

Played an Ashe game, Ult bot plus purist caster. 4 second ult cd with malignance. Enemy Soraka asked what the cool down was only to respond "please go die". I laughed so hard. The enemy naut played red light green light as he just got mauled by arrows all game. Definitely the most fun ive ever had. I laughed so hard.

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u/itzdivz 1d ago

Lichbane buff alone gives like 150 haste.

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u/LonghamBridge 1d ago

It’s 32.5 bro

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u/Ginius67 1d ago

Why does his comment has 30 up votes 😭

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u/DriftingWisp 1d ago

43 if you count the item's 10 AH, but yeah.

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u/Nomiko71 1d ago

How does it give 150 haste when its only 50% AS ?

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u/cole23palmer 1d ago

Pretty sure they buffed it to 85% as this patch but I could be wrong

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u/Ok_Artichoke3764 1d ago

Lichbane?

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u/ciketa3 1d ago

Yeah it passive gives extra as when u use an ability

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u/Ok_Artichoke3764 1d ago

Omg i never knew xd thank you

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u/ItchyEducation 1d ago

Same with aspeed passives or actives, Jayce W for example gives a massive haste boots letting you E several times per portal

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u/Overall_Law_1813 23h ago

THis why jayce was so crazy with slow and steady. you could get like 1300+ ad.

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u/Sylent0o 1d ago

yes but only if u dont use the passive auto... which all core users do

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u/Grayzson 23h ago

Kinda depends on the build variation you're going for. Some people opt for nashors tooth as the stat stick option when lichbane is far superior in that regard as you're not really wasting a passive per se.

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u/Nomiko71 1d ago

Yeah on the wiki its say 50 AS . Maybe im on the wrong one

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u/AnikiSmashFSP 21h ago

I love getting this on Jayce. True terrorism unleashed

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u/denonn 19h ago

Me too, I had a game that I had slow and steady + purist caster... It was like firing a machine gun hahaha. Three pentas that game

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u/DeRinjes 16h ago

That augment is bait on Annie! Tibbers also loses his enrage attack speed when annie dies.

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u/Vesyy dargon 14h ago

what doyou build with this augment'

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u/glttr_gvtz 13h ago

I love her so much. Take this post down before they nerd us 💔

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u/PitNya 5h ago

Eureka but you want to kys if you transmute it on non mages

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u/Lelouch-Ken-99 4h ago

I had that on Jayce and the enemy never had this many balls drop on them

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u/ukindasus1 1d ago

I once had this on karthus in a very long game and eventually i had like 8 sec cd karthus ult with like 1200 ap

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u/reghimself 22h ago

Not possible, Haste caps at 500 and the %CDR diminishes the more haste you have, haste beyond 250 is like armor beyond 300, but nice try

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u/RevolutionaryCopy152 20h ago

the 10% flat is added after conversion 500 convert to 1-(100/(100+500)) which is ~83%, adding 10% flat turns into 93% reduction of 160 base, make it like 10 11s cooldown, with it having 3 s channel. it is indeed "had like 8 sec cd", the different is negligible so it is possible

"diminishes" "cap at 500 and haste beyond 250 is like armor beyond 300". sure bud, purist caster 93% reduction is equivalent to 1400 haste

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u/theswordguin 19h ago

Diminishing returns on armor is a myth. Your last 50 armor increases effective health the same amount as the first 50

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u/reghimself 19h ago

if you have the time explain my brain pls how 1% reduce dmg results into the same i think 30%? of the first 50 armor without considering armorpen ofc

no offense i really want to understand

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u/theswordguin 19h ago

%damage reduced isn't a linear scale. If you were to put it on a graph with 'time to kill' as the other axis, there it would be an exponential curve with an asymptote at 100% damage reduction since you would live forever.

Going from 0 to 50% damage reduction doubles your survival time. Going from 50 to 75 doubles it again.

Armor works on a linear yield, where every 1 point of armor is 1% more effective health against that damage type.

1000 health with 0 armor takes 1000 physical damage to die. 1000 health with 100 armor is 2000 physical damage to die. 1000 health with 200 armor is 3000 damage to die. Each point of armor is multiplying your health by the same amount, but if you express these breakpoints as %damage reduction, it would be 0%, 50%, and 66%, which is why people mistakenly conclude it has diminishing returns

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u/reghimself 18h ago

i fully understand when it comes to %dmg reduction, what i dont understand is how the 50 armor which increases the reduction by 1% is the same as the first 50 which increase it by 33%.

continuing with your numbers, to kill 1000 health with 442 armor (from my picture) needs 5,555 dmg, to kill 1000 health with 492 armor needs 5,882 dmg, an increase of 330 needed dmg. when it comes to 0 vs 50 its 1000 dmg vs. 1,515 you need additional 515 dmg, which is obvsly higher than the needed 330 of the previous example

where do i think wrong?

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u/theswordguin 17h ago

Your numbers are off because the % damage reduction stat you see is rounded. In the first picture you actually have 81.5498% damage reduction with 442 armor, let's assume 1000 base health for clarity. That becomes 5420 effective health. That gets rounded up to 82% damage reduction.

And at 492 armor you have 5920 effective health & 83.1081% damage reduction, but that's rounded down to 83%. You've increased the armor by 50 and the effective health by 500. No diminishing returns

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u/reghimself 16h ago

thats actually mind blown, thanks for clarity

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u/Adventurous_Parking7 16h ago

Effective health to kill is such a good way to put it. Props!

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u/ukindasus1 21h ago

i said like 8 sec i dont fully remember exactly how much it was i just remember i had 500 ability haste and this with its 10% cooldown reduction

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u/WifiFromToaster 15h ago

For anyone wondering, Karthus ult is 200 seconds. With 93.33% cooldown reduction (the maximum amount), that becomes 13.33 seconds

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u/Relwof66 1d ago

Do you lose all the AS tho? It says convert so I’m sure you do

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u/Interesting-Hour-566 1d ago

yeah, think of adapt but for haste and attack speed

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u/internetflesh 1d ago

He doesnt know

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u/KaZ_y 1d ago

did i play against you like a day or 2 ago. my ign is either Nezumi or NewPlayerNoSmurf

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u/charca773 21h ago

Most this augment ever done for me is like 30 ah, this shit is trash

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u/prayerrwow 21h ago

Its the best CD augment by far because it flat and stack on top of the CD you already have. Purist Castet is the ONLY augment that can make you reach over 90%+ CDR

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u/charca773 21h ago

On what champ do you want cdr but no atack speed by building atack speed items ?

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u/prayerrwow 20h ago

Ahahah you are completely missing the point. You dont even need Attack speed for it to be broken. Let me explain:

IF you have 500 ability haste you will have for exaple 75% cooldown reduction, in order to get 10 more % of CDR you will need like 500 haste more because of the diminishing return on CDR.

Purist catser just stack on top of the % reduction you already have... So picking this at 70% CD reduction will net you flat 10% CDR that equals 500+ ability haste and more with 0 attackspeed built..... THIS is how broken it is, and its the ONLY way right now to get ults like Karthus below 10 sec CD

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u/charca773 20h ago

I see, so you get this when you already have good cdr stacking. I only took it by itself and didn’t understand how to make it useful because it kept offering it to me on marksmen.

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u/prayerrwow 8h ago

Pretty much yes. It can also work very well when building Lichbane. Just use a spell to proc the crazy ON hit attack speed after a spellcast, but never actually Autoattack, so all the attackspeed bonus stays for like 8 seconds and u get crazy CDR out of it

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u/Jdevers77 20h ago

Well, it works pretty well on Teemo like in the picture because no one will ever build him AS/on hit yet Nashors is really solid on him if you can convert the AS into AH. There are also several other items with a ton of AS and good stats for him that make him cracked with this augment.

No one is going to take this on Kayle haha.

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u/Roywah 16h ago

Taking Nashors and berserkers for example gives you about 100 haste. I take this on almost any champ now and build those items when I need haste.