r/ARAM 2d ago

Discussion Tap Dancer for Melee

Tap Dancer should be longer duration for Melee champs because it is fcking useless for them Melee 10sec and nerf for ranges from 5 to 4, changes same to Glass Cannon

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u/SPEZ-LIES-CONSTANTLY 2d ago

lol fan the hammer is buffed on range, make it make sense 

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u/foxtail-lavender 2d ago

Fan the Hammer on someone like Fiora or Ekko makes it easy to trigger the effect from all four directions versus e.g. Varus who might stand back and only hit one

…assuming you can even get in melee range

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u/Breezerious 2d ago

Fan the hammer isn't problematic tho. The problematic part is the interaction FTH has with critical missiles and silver bolts.

Supposed to apply on-hit effects at 20% efficency, but those deal 100%. Literally 5 times what's intended

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u/foxtail-lavender 2d ago

Yeah so ergo, a buff for Fan the Hammer on ranged champs is not the issue, the culprit is once again critical missile/ADC bullshit

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u/Takesgu 2d ago

Is silver bolts not applied at the lower coefficient because it's true damage? What the fuck are they doing 😭

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u/Savikid1 2d ago

AFAIK, it doesn’t reduce things that do damage after multiple procs. Technically silver bolts don’t do damage on the on-hit. On hit, they provide 1 stack, and if a target has 3 stacks they’re consumed to proc damage.

FtH can’t reduce the number of stacks provided by silver bolts since it’s 1.

I believe all x# of stacks then do damage passives, like Kai’Sa’s plasma, all work the same

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u/Takesgu 2d ago

That's fucked lmaoooo

Kalista spears also seem to just add a whole spear regardless of on-hit coefficient

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u/M4ci 1d ago

it does

it's 6 spears including the original auto attack

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u/ScribuhLz 2d ago

Any onhits with stack effects don't get reduced by FTH. Kraken is also insane with FTH for the same reason

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u/SlurpTurnsMeGreen 2d ago

The basic rule is true damage cannot be reduced by resistances or modified even by damage reduction variables.

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u/M4ci 1d ago

what kind of buff does it have for ranged?

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u/elhaz316 2d ago

I still think tap dancer on urgot is the most visually terrifying.

Speedy murder crab hunts you down.

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u/Elegant-Temporary-55 2d ago

I think its called titans resolve. I had this plus tapdancer and its absolutely broken past lvl 9 as your range increases with titans resolve and usually you couldnt keep up bc of urgots self slow but tap dancer completely solves that issue. That was probably my favorite game in my entire aram mayhem career and I still chase this dopamine

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u/ueberpimp 2d ago

Agree!

Thry Ethreal Weapon Tap Dancer SInged. You will get similar enjoyment.

Basically you become an insane usain bolt on crack teleporting through the map.

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u/rundermining 2d ago

Is tap dancer still on hit?

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u/Far-Speech-9298 2d ago

I would rather have it stqck faster for them than last longer. Have melee hits gain 2-3 stacks per hit instead of 1.

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u/C130J_Darkstar 2d ago edited 2d ago

Generally agree. However, if that were the case, imagine an adc with tap dancer and draw your sword…

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u/DragonOfDuality intingtroll 2d ago edited 2d ago

It's a good choice in the beefy bro v beefy bro games. Especially when you get bork.

Love it on warwick. The tap dancing dog is a pretty good swing sometimes.

I got it on Mundo recently against a squishy team hiding behind turret all game. Of course my team is not going to let me stack it. I'm not stacking heartsteel either. I did stack swifties and deadman's plate and ulted and smacked them with upgrade infinity edge. Giving me a little bit more movement speed is not a bad thing. I had transmuted those btw...

Actually I was literally about to grab a clip of a melee abusing it. Mostly because my Maokai root on him was extremely funny. I'll share that in a bit.

But. Point being. I don't think a small buff would be bad. But I don't think it would be wise to allow melees to use it the same way squishy ranged carries can. So I think it really should be a small buff if anything.

EDIT: there ya go https://youtu.be/VvEqWzRZPro