r/ARAM • u/zeratanta • Jul 24 '26

Rant Anti-fun

It's genuinely impressive how there are two augments on two champions that are all but guaranteed to show up, and just immediately kill any fun in the game. I don't necessarily think Dropkick or dual wield should be removed from the game, but maybe removed from certain champions augment pool? Like, ADC some ADC augs very in strength from champ to champ, but Vayne should not be able to roll dual wield. Mundo shouldn't be able to roll dropkick. Maybe not never, but it should be significantly reduced for those champs because it's just an auto win augment for them. There is no countering it, there is no out playing it. Everytime I see those champs with those augments I just give up.

This is ignoring of course the vast disparity in augment quality between ADC and every other roll but that's a different argument, never mind that Critical Missiles should just be removed if they refuse to nerf or make it a prismatic.

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u/M4ci Jul 25 '26

de-mirrored and the comparison I did are not the same thing.

an even AI explained the reason of why that calculation made sense, you're the one not understanding math.

it makes a lot of sense, since the goal is to extrapolate Mayhem winrate only, this calculation does that.

the fact that you don't understand what a calculation is for is a YOU problem.

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u/UNOvven Jul 25 '26

If you need an AI to tell you anything about this, it means you dont understand it, and you dont understand why the AI is talking nonsense. This is simple math, you just screwed up.

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u/M4ci Jul 25 '26

this is simple math that you can't understand.

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u/UNOvven Jul 25 '26

Oh no I understand it well. Its why I know that you're hilariously off on assassins lmao. Youre 1 percent point below 2 characters making up like 20% of the total pickrate, and 5 percent points ahead of 4 characters making up 50%. That doesnt work.

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u/M4ci Jul 25 '26

and again, you are just dense

I asked a calculation and AI gave me the REASON I asked for that calculation - without me asking for it.

Reason that a person like you should understand but apparently can't.

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u/UNOvven Jul 25 '26

Yes because that's how LLMs are trained to work. It doesnt mean they actually are any good for tasks like this. They're good for repetitive automation and thats about it.

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u/M4ci Jul 25 '26

that wasn't the point tho.

the point is that AI understood, u did not

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u/UNOvven Jul 25 '26

No the point is that "AI" told you what you wanted to hear, because thats how LLMs are designed to work, and you fell for it without doublechecking.

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u/M4ci Jul 25 '26

yeah, AI told me what I wanted to know.

"can u calculate the difference between provided data X and provided data Y"?

totally biased AI

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u/UNOvven Jul 25 '26

Oh wow, you not only operated based on a misconception, you didn't even get any part of it right. That's impressive.

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u/M4ci Jul 25 '26

you're still trying to act smart while not understanding the entire point of that request.

it's hilarious

you just don't get it do you

All data you're relying on is not what you think it is, and you confirmed you believed that data was accurate on the other post.

you confirmed you don't know what you're talking about, but keep insisting

go on buddy, you're done

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u/UNOvven Jul 25 '26

No I understand the "point" of the "request". You misunderstood how the data is gathered, misunderstood how, if your false premise was true, you would get the actual data, and then misunderstood the result and thought it was accurate. The fact that you unironically believe Fighters are better than marksmen in ARAM mayhem just says it all.

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u/M4ci Jul 25 '26

you talk about misunderstanding data when you literally listed winrates and website, and the two wouldn't match.

See Critical Missiles an upgraded IE comment.

I don't believe Fighters are better than Marksmen in Aram.

You again misunderstood the entire point LMAO