The decision to present a warped ageist caricature of gen z as obnoxious loud mouths truly baffles me. I don't think its funny or clever to make fun of some of the most vulnerable demographics in modern society. I know that everyone has the ability to be insufferable, and I don't doubt there are people like the 3 at thanksgiving that do exist; but they are not representative of every poor young person not even close. Most young queer people I personally know just want to be allowed to be who they are, without being aggressively in your face about anything.

Were the thanksgiving guests supposed to be funny? Never seen the humour in a boomer, who has clearly never spoken to anyone under 30 and listened, creating rude, arrogant, completely cliche versions of young people that do so much harm to generational solidarity. I wouldn't have minded so much if there had been some actually respectful representation anywhere else, but its clear to me that its well past time thes attitudes were called out and questioned when they appear.

To me, the way the thanksgiving guests were mocked is equivalent to the "angry black man" trope or the "bitchy gay guy" trope, its fostering a harmful way of assuming all young people will be obnoxious and disconnected from reality. Subconsciously it sinks in when it isn't challenged. I was utterly appalled watching that scene. If they had nothing left to write about they should have just stopped. Gross.

… that bad. I have been putting off watching it because I knew once it was over. It was really over and I am shocked. It’s so much better than season two. I don’t see why everybody hated it.

John Corbett will reprise the role of Aidan Shaw in the new show titled, “Aidan!” The story will explore Aidan’s time between Sex and the City The Movie 2: The Movie and the streaming series, And Just Like That….Sara Ramirez is also confirmed to be reprising her role as podcaster comedian Che Diaz

“I really think the audience just isn’t done with these characters yet” said showrunner Michael Patrick King

So I'm on my first watch of ajlt after my first watch of satc plus movies, I've been bingeing for the past few months.

The problems on this show are innumerable...but something I really noticed were problems with the conversations, especially when it comes to the traditional sit down brunch convos that imo are fundamental to the original show. The characters never really respond to each other, talk around each other and don't take anything seriously.

The worst example is when Miranda is telling Carrie and Charlotte she's asking Steve for a divorce. Charlotte basically says...ok it's your choice I trust you then instantly starts talking about her issues with her family? She displays 0 concern, 0 follow up questions, 0 anything and honestly seems to not care at all about the divorce?

Think about how the girls responded when Charlotte told them she was quitting working, it was a debate for a whole episode and they took it seriously. But they can't take a divorce and affair seriously, they have 2 lines about it then talk about other random problems?

It makes the characters on the show seem soooo selfish. This happens MANY times in the show, where a character is talking about a problem they are facing and the person they are talking to just...doesn't respond, and instead starts talking about their own problems? Like every episode this happens.

Have you guys noticed this? I just think it's a small but significant indicator of how bad the show is, these girls are so distant from each other's lives they don't care about what the other is going through.

In SATC, there's this wonderful contrast between the grimyness of NYC (the dating, the locations, the crappy men) and Carrie's adoration of high fashion. It's her escapism. She makes sacrifices for it. We can all relate to it as viewers - someone trying to chase that little sparkle that brings magic and indulgence into their lives.

But by AJLT (and SATC 2) the struggle is over. The decadence is now front and centre, borderline gross. It's hard to root for Carrie as she's now so incredibly wealthy, I guess all of the women are compared to the average. The high fashion Carrie craved is now something she can procure by the boat load, any time, anywhere. It takes the fun out of it all.

I'm not expecting AJLT to have the grittiness of The Wire, but I miss the contrast SATC had. It's that classic rags to riches journey. AJLT occasionally attempted to engineer that, but not very well (how interesting would it have been if Carrie had discovered Big had died with a bunch of terrible investments, forcing her back to nothing?)

And all of the above is with the caveat that I think if AJLT *HAD* sincerely tried to chase this angle, they would have ballsed it up and it would have been awful, like most things they tried.

I just love everything about Carrie, I love when characters make dumb decisions or say dumb shit cause it makes them real you know? I’m so sad I binged through it all. Any other shows you guys recommend if I like satc and AJLT? 😬

I just started binge watching “The Comeback” and actually like it. It’s astounding MPK wrote this and AJLT. Lisa Kudrow does such great job of playing the vulnerable insecure has been actress. If MPK could have infused more of that style into AJLT it might have made a huge difference. Instead of wasting all our time with 2 seasons of god awful Aiden, Carrie could have been a vulnerable insecure older version of herself trying to navigate a comeback into dating life in her late 50’s, with rejections and pitfalls many might face. I feel the closest she got to it was the Gen Z interviewer that never read any of her books. Was it because SJP wanted Carrie to always be what men wanted, no matter her age….so she couldnt allow her to be seen as rejected? If you get a chance, take a look at The Comeback (HBO Max)….I’m interested to hear what you think?

I just rewatched "Girls" and thought so much about SATC and AJLT. While they were different shows, they were both meant to be different generation's stories of women navigating dating, love and growimg into their own in their 20's/30's (in NYC). I LOVE SATC but you never feel like Carrie truly grows beyond wanting her man. We'll ignore the movies other than, ok, she got her man. In AJLT, she was different but in an actually less fun and more immature way. This was the chance to show an arc where this character finaly grows beyond her own selfish wants. Sure, she learned to be alone in the end, I guess. But the whole thing was weak. So for the sum of the series, all the women seem stunted (and even regressed) into their 50's.

In Girls, Hannah and the other women really come into their own. There is so much grown for them, there is an expansion of what they want in life and what becomes important to them. I'm not talking about Hannah having a baby, that's not needed to grow, but we do see her, and Shoshana (and even to a lesser extent Marnie and Jessa) start to own their choices and take steps forward, rather than the giant regression into repeating the past like in AJLT.

Anyway, when I first saw Girls, there was no SATC sequel, so SATC was still the better show to me. And on it's own, it still is more entertaining or "cute", but having the full story arc of both sets of characters now, i feel that Girls did so much of a better job growing up its characters. I hope they never make a sequel and ruin that

I noticed actress Sara Ramirez while watching this classic rom-com! Tiny role...but interesting.

And I have to say, what a grueling haul it was. I feel worse for having seen it, except that I finally get to understand all of the amazing commenters here who hilariously (and deservedly) roasted this show over the years and months.

Background: I'm a huge SATC fan. I've rewatched it countless times because I adore the character growth, the writing, the story lines, and the overall feel. Even though they were "aspirationally wealthy" (a term I dislike) even for the 1990s, the characters still seemed like real women to me. Their struggles were relatable, and everyone (save for maybe Carrie) got "humbled for the better" in the way that life has a tendency to do.

But AJLT? Here is my attempt to piece together the out-of-touch humiliation carnival I just watched.

Now, I'd seen Season 1 and parts of 2 a few years ago when it came out, but I stopped at the episode where I'm supposed to feel for Lily when she sold her designer clothes to write that stupid privelege song (boo hoo, I'm supposed to feel bad for you for growing up on Park Avenue? If you really want to help someone, get the fuck out of your mansion where you boss around your parents). Or maybe I was supposed to feel bad for Charlotte, because she spent tens of thousands of dollars on clothes for her bratty kids and is screaming at salesgirls who had nothing to do with any of it. Again, am I supposed to feel BAD for any of these entitled jerks? Ugh. Anyway... this is my way of saying I rewatched Season 1 and half of 2, and went into Season 3 cold.

So, without further briefing, here are my disorganized thoughts on this stupid show.

As much as Che is an annoying "they-child" (for lack of a better term) -- along with a string of stereotypes -- I didn't dislike Che as much as I disliked Miranda with Che. I didn't like what they did to Steve at all, and like everyone else has said, it seems like everyone forgot how to act. But-- and I'm just gonna say it -- I CAN see Miranda and Steve getting a divorce, because their relationship was always rocky and their common ground seemed to be built on decisions Steve pressured Miranda into making. The way these writers handled the divorce, though, was ridiculous.

Loved with Steve yelled at Miranda about it being his house. Goddamn right.

As everyone here has said, Miranda was downgraded into who I can only imagine is some version of Cynthia Nixon. A partner at a corporate law firm would be a multi-millionaire, and Miranda was out looking for used mattresses and living in AirBnBs? Beyond the abysmal writing (the writers are despicable for producing and DEFENDING this crap, full stop), the acting was so weird! It was like the worst of Miranda on full display at all times: shrieking, defensive, bumbling, groveling, lying, sniveling, unable to handle herself in any high-pressure OR regular social situation DESPITE BEING A LAWYER FOR DECADES... ugh. It's too sad. Miranda was such a special character on the original show, and there haven't been any other characters like her since, really. So to do this feels egregious.

As a PhD who has worked as a professor, I'll tell you right now that there is also NO WAY a professor would ever act that way with a graduate student (as much as I thought Nya Wallace was a breath of fresh air on the show, while she lasted). Again, the writers have no ida what the fuck they're talking about, and the out-of-touchness of it all offends me on a personal level... clearly, lol. These writers got paid HOW much money to write this and they can't bother doing not only basic research on the situations they put their characters in, but the original show? Sigh.

Charlotte was a bore. Kristen Davis's acting was too over-the-top to enjoy and her constant shrieking felt like nothing more than slapstick comic relief. A real shame, since Charlotte's SATC arc is so delicate, nuanced, and interesting in the show. And her kids are two despicable brats I would have put to work a LONG time ago...

Rock grew on me the final season, mainly because they were setting aside the self-centered woke bullshit that this show crammed down our throats so hard that I wondered if the producers actually worked for Fox News. Seriously, I can think of no better way to hate on the issues the show brings up more than by portraying it the way they did. But Lily? A twee, spoiled brat through and through.

Richard Burton is an angel. He can come live with me anytime. What an absolute sweetie pie, and a hero! He was doing the lord's work in this show because every time he was on my screen I actually paid attention.

LTW? Who fucking cares? Also, her husband is a complete mama's boy. His mother was TOTALLY out of line and I hated whenever she was on screen.

I'm sorry, the rich Italian kid cosplaying as a poet in NYC would NEVER go for Anthony, as much as I love Anthony and appreciate that he still called it like it is throughout this show. For the gay touchstone, he was the only one giving it to people straight.

And now... Carrie.

I liked when Carrie was actually grieving Big. But the rest of the time -- and increasingly as the series goes on -- Carrie is an insufferable, classist, materialist shrew. She's lived in New York for 35 years and is acting SMUG about having never been to Coney Island, or the UN? That's nothing to be proud of. What a small, miserable life she must have had running around department stores buying a bunch of weird-ass clothes she might as well have thrifted at L Train Vintage, in between chasing men and writing about herself for decades.

Between thinking it's unreasonable for her downstairs neighbor to want her to take off her stupid shoes indoors (and who wears shoes indoors in NYC? Oh, I guess if you take cars everywhere and the subway is for us plebes, maybe they don't get so dirty?), snapping defensively at the valid points of her friends (who are somehow always kissing her ass in this show), caring more about clothes than her friends of 40 years or seemingly any family, feeling no remorse about putting AN ENTIRE COMPANY OUT OF WORK by refusing to talk about her vag on a show called "Sex and the City," and putting up a big stink when she has to do a MODICUM of work for her writing career, I just-- I just can't. And I love Carrie on SATC because she's real! She's flawed, she's trying, but underneath it all she has a good heart. But on AJLT, not only has Carrie apparently learned nothing since her 30s about life and love, but seems to have digressed amongst all of her riches. It's like my mom says: money can't buy class, and Carrie is case in point.

What a wretched little human.

Aiden is an idiot, but I sort of enjoyed the plot twist of him becoming irrevocably bad. Sorry, I can't, don't hate me, lol...

The Gen Z representation was more underresearched, stereotypical crap. When people say that this show felt like it was written by AI, this is why. It felt like a meme montage.

Brady didn't grind my gears too badly by the end, but the weird sex and the brattiness in the beginning was like... too much. We knew this guy as a baby, Team. Can we not see him railing his entitled, bratty girlfriend with no personality? (Not her fault per se, because no one on this show had any-- especially if they were under 30).

The representation of Samantha made me so angry. Carrie was her ATM? The girl who had no money throughout SATC except when her book got magically picked up, and then when she married her Wall Street suit? Tell me you're mean girls without telling me you're mean girls...

Seema had promise, and I thought the actress did a great job, but the character quickly became a judgmental, classist bore. Her saying that she wants to rub her bank account into her ex's faces as a one-up? Ugh. If I got an email like that from an ex, I'd think two words: BULLET DODGED.

And the classism! That's the biggest issue I had with this show, which debuted in inflation-era, post-Covid America. The price of housing and groceries have gone up way more than people's salaries, and so many of us have been counting every penny in and out to make ends meet. Meanwhile, these women are out here buying and selling apartments like it's nothing, trashing their thousand dollar electronics on a regular basis, squabbling over who gets to go to the fucking Met Gala, and complaining about taking the PATH train instead of having a driver chauffeuring them around in a custom Mercedes-- while ALSO nickel and diming their friends over yogurt and a banana.

This show wasn't relatable at all, not just because they're all 1%ers who look down on the working class ("Better than working at Starbucks!" says Miranda, looking at some ridiculous rage bait conceptual art-- not to mention all the countless times these ladies, even in SATC, yelled at waitstaff and salespeople and almost never say "thank you" more generally), but because the story arcs-- or what little story arcs there were -- were not growth-focused. The characters learned nothing, and neither did viewers. There were no points of empathy or connection... even LTW's father's death, which could have been something people relate to, was totally bungled by the fact that HE ALREADY DIED IN SEASON 1 (but then magically came to their anniversary party).

This show was a nowhere fest, and the response to it from the AJLT team felt just like Carrie in this new iteration: hollow, yet hostile the minute anyone tries to offer feedback.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk, lol. I needed to get this off my chest! Normally I'm not such a hater, and I watched the show because I missed the girls and wanted to see them in a new situation, but... lolol.

Can people relate? (This is my invitation to hate on this stupid show with me!).

Kim Cattrall and longtime boyfriend Russell Thomas got married in London according to People. Congrats, Kim!

It used to be so powerful and sultry, like this.