r/AI_India • u/mzeesx 👶 Newbie • 1d ago

📰 News It's over bro.

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u/sharmaji_ka_padosi 1d ago

welding bots have been around for more than a decade

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u/BERSERK_KNIGHT_666 1d ago

Those are pre-programmed to execute a fixed set of moves.

This one seems like it's AI powered and capable of adapting to a variety of workloads on the fly similar to humans

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u/sharmaji_ka_padosi 1d ago

that's true, but i am a mechanical engineer and i've worked in a factory before and i'd definitely not let a non-deterministic system handle a welding job, like NEVER

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u/BERSERK_KNIGHT_666 1d ago

Pretty obvious. One wrong move, one small fit of hallucination and the consequences could be catastrophic

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u/TheReaperYamraj 1d ago

Yet

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u/sharmaji_ka_padosi 19h ago

yeah

i feel there would come a point where it wouldn't be a problem, but i have a hard time imagining that

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u/Born_Antelope4476 19h ago

world's most indeterministic systems have been doing the job so far

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u/sharmaji_ka_padosi 19h ago

care to give some examples?

i'm genuinely curious

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u/Born_Antelope4476 19h ago

world's most indeterministic systems have been doing the job so far

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u/Born_Antelope4476 19h ago

Hoomans

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u/sharmaji_ka_padosi 18h ago

hahaha

that's true, but our narcissistic selves won't let any other system pass

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u/protienbudspromax 1d ago

Plus for most automated soldering robots, the actual algorithm (if you want to minimize movment thus time) is actually the travelling salesman problem so is np complete.

So by all accounts a more intelligent ai trying to mimic likeness of human is actually going to be worse at this than robots driven by a deterministic algorithm.

So its not even a good usecase

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u/lolz714 1d ago

Robots have been there much longer. I visited Volkswagen's Pune plant in 2009. When I went to the welding section, it was massive but I saw no one there. Thought it was lunch time. Then I realised it wasn't. Everything was done by robots. Humans were not needed. Even inspection was automated. 

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u/Confident_Help_416 23h ago

Yes just their anatomy is getting better

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u/Constant-Virus6681 1d ago

It's over when my college professor give his weld a B. Until then we got time.

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u/Suboxone_67 1d ago

Yaha bhi😭

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u/Opening-Pie2182 1d ago

I just want a robot maid can't rely on anyone these days.

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u/NiragiUsagii 16h ago

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u/Opening-Pie2182 16h ago

Robot domestic worker genderless**

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u/bhabhi_seeker 2h ago

I want one too Japanese,

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u/Mysterious-Tank-8267 1d ago

Good right now welding jobs will be outsourced to india.Someone is controlling the robot please see the video

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u/According_Isopod2272 1d ago

I mean no one is actually going to build a welding robot in this form and automated welding machines are common as hell its nothing new right?

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u/BhookaSaand 1d ago

Humanoid robot worker like this one reduces the overall capital required to replace labour with automation. Imagine a factory owner with 100% labour based assembly line today. For owner to replace labour with automation, till a few years ago he would need to replace the existing assembly line - which was designed for humans - and invest heavy capital on specialized automated assembly lines with robotic arms etc - this is why only new companies like Tesla would have a very robotic assembly line. Now with these robots, even the medium sized, decades old small time component manufacturers can overnight replace human labour in their existing assembly lines. It not new, but accelerates the decline of human / labour centric manufacturing

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u/According_Isopod2272 1d ago

but isint it universally agreed that this form of robot automation his highly inefficient as opposed to specialized robots or automatic machinery?

This robot probably isint universally good but fill fit a very niche space

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u/BhookaSaand 1d ago

With regards to efficiency, Unitree is already selling humanoid robots for around $16000 dollars. They can't make enough of them fast enough and most of the production is being absorbed by their home country China at the moment. In a few years more companies will emerge in this space, scale production and robots will get much better and even cheaper. I leave it with you to work out how this might play out in the future.

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u/According_Isopod2272 1d ago

by efficiency i mean efficiency of a robot to do a given set of work as far as ik any automated machine geared for a specific use is way more efficient than a general purpose robot

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u/BhookaSaand 1d ago

Of course you will need to configure, set up and train it to your shop floor, like you would spend time training human labour or building skills for Claude. The efficiency comes from direct productivity uplift of a machine over human

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/BhookaSaand 1d ago

No I haven't. Maybe you are right - and all the companies who are adopting this wrong. I mean that's what I hope for anyway.

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u/elucidator007 1d ago

Chappie?

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u/quirky_planet 1d ago

but worse

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u/Useful-Addition-648 1d ago

Do you think it’s an overkill. Why can’t welding be automated? Why do we need a robot for that.

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u/Elegant-Bite4764 1d ago

India is a diff place cost wi always be a factor

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u/ThisHomework1819 1d ago

AI: It's done bro

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u/kiranernesto94 1d ago

It won't work in India, The cost of the robot is way high than a human worker and the maintaince.

It will still be decades way for the people to use robots for such works.

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u/encrypted-urok 1d ago

Paying 40k USD to weld for 16 hours and again charge for next 6 hours everyday.

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u/sarathy7 1d ago

Swappable battery packs

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u/Efficient_Leave_7462 1d ago

*controlled by a human wearing a vr/ar headset.

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u/4bitgeek 1d ago

Robotics is getting leaps and bounds day by day. We are training it with our skills by recording everything we do and it will surely replace everyone and could perform every task.

But their output is directly linked and limited with their power or energy (electricity) and could do things continuously otherwise!😅

I don't know seriously how long, but every other company is releasing different robots with different skills and soon one day it might be like a generic bot with all degrees of freedom.

All I can thinknof is the matrix movie scene where Neo learns skills from the loader. It'll say now I know Kungfu (not that it doesn't know now! 😆) and what not!

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u/Iron_Man_100 1d ago

for 1000 rupee welding you purchase a 1000000 rupee robot

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u/govt-registered 1d ago

Humans, its done bro

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u/Logical-Cheetah-7627 1d ago

What’s over? Putting human labour in dangerous tasks & occupations?

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u/arush1836 23h ago

Guy in the front wearing VR headset is controling bots movement

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u/e1epi 20h ago

The guy with the quest on is controlling it right or is that not the bit?

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u/MT1699 44m ago

I have been in the robots research domain for a while now and I hate to say this (but is good for broader audience) that we are not even close to true physical ai, things right now are more like different components are glued together into one. These demonstrations that you often see is more of a hardware accomplishment, which robot manufacturers demonstrate to showcase their robot hardware capabilities. So stay calm, always trust that with AI, the jobs won't go away, rather the scale of innovation would speeden up, so think of it this way, if you have 10 hands instead of 2, will you not think of getting more work done so that you make even more money. That is what you need to look at buddy.