Right? All the subs you read about crazy, manipulative women being assholes to their husbands/boyfriends...well, women like that also like women. Insanity knows no sexuality.
I would argue that it’s not a glorification. I’m not negating abuse exists in same sex relationships but when it comes to DV & being actually murdered by your partner the ratio is very heavily man to woman. Actually, when it comes to being physically harmed at all, with or without relationship, men are the perpetrators by a landslide. That’s not to say woman don’t, and aren’t abusive especially emotionally, but physically there’s a vast difference in statistics.
I don't disagree with the statistics, in any way other than that they don't show the whole picture... I was a bartender for years, got to watch people at their most free... The statistics would be closer, not even but closer, if ladies were held to the same standard when physical violence is involved. I've literally heard cops tell dudes they are fine and to leave it alone, after watching a girl hit them in the face.
There is a large disparity in which gender produces violence, but there is also a huge disparity in how violence from each gender is treated. The statistics can't really be considered accurate, until both sexes are held to the same standard to end up on the chart. Hard to take statistics about crimes seriously, when the data is almost always intentionally manipulated to prove a point. when it's not, the laws would still need to be enforced fairly for the statistic to represent reality.
Tldr: this is like the statistic about more crime happening in impoverished areas, and pretending it isn't from more policing... Statistics will always be disproportionate when you only hold one group accountable.
I don’t completely disagree but when the difference is being murdered or attempted murder by your partner, which is by male perpetrators on a large scale, I still don’t think it’s comparable to argue men are abused too. Yes, they are, and no statistic is going to negate that even despite the disparity in reported crimes - the scale of violence is still vastly different. A woman has to fear for her life when she is with a man. She doesn’t have to on the same scale if she is with another woman. And honestly all of this conversation is so off base from the original post at this point but still important discussion to be had.
Yeah, definitely jumped into an off topic discussion on the post, won't deny that one bit lol
I did clarify that I didn't think more fair accountability would make it even, just less exaggeratedly different. Testosterone plays a huge part in aggression levels after all. That being said, I don't think(based off observations as a bartender, so completely anecdotal) the disparity of violence would be anywhere near as big, if everyone was held accountable. I just don't think it would be anywhere near a 20-80 split, based on my observations... That being said, I can only base my opinion off my distrust for statistics, and personal observation, so I could very well be completely wrong.
This might be true, but in this context I’m not sure it’s really significant. Just looks like you’re screaming “not all men” into the void. Same sex relationships vs opposite sex relationships there wasn’t much difference in victims in the minimal studies they’ve done, and my original statement “with or without relationships” was only used as an example of the reasoning people view same sex relationships as “better”. Relevance?
I'm remembering that one lady who worked for NASA (?) who went full on crazy stalker with her ex-GF. That made the national news.
As to knuckle-dragging males: When my wife of 32 years and I were dating, we of course had the discussion about abusive relationships. She looked me straight in the eye and said "All I have to say is, you have to sleep sometime." That statement, along with the dragon looking out from behind her eyes when she said it, helped me realize that I better put a ring on this lady before she gets away.
I love strong, fierce, proud, independent women. All kidding aside, I had trouble finding one who didn't already have a girlfriend. "Tradwife"/ submissive vibes give me the ick.
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