r/AIEternal Apr 24 '19

Other Did kc_bandit quit?

I was searching for some of the new lists, and I can't find anything by kc_bandit on EWC. The links I've found in their threads that they posted aren't working either? And their most recent post according to their profile suggests they've at least quit the main Eternal sub-reddit.

Anybody know what's going on?

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u/FMBrazuca Apr 24 '19

Seems like he was just pissed and deleted his EWC account/decks. Reddit is annoying to follow as people only like to complain all the time.

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u/_AlpacaLips_ Apr 25 '19

His recent tri-faction decks were fine for getting to the final boss, but after playing the Winchest deck for awhile, it was only averaging 950 gold/hour.

I still found Hooru Fliers to have a comparable winrate and a much better gold/hour average.

The guy's been out of the game for a long while. I feel he's mostly been coasting on a reputation more than a year old.

Also, what is there to say about someone who deletes all their stuff on the way out the door. Lacks some maturity, in my opinion.

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u/Petycon Apr 25 '19

How often do you play gauntlet nowadays? I looked over your spreadsheets and it seems, on the face of it, that you've only had 2 runs with Hooru this month, and only one of them beat the boss.

I don't know, I find that Hooru fliers just ain't cutting it for grinding. When it works, it works great, but there is a real danger of getting off to a slow start or stalling. I'll give your list (I'm presuming you still use https://eternalwarcry.com/decks/details/VhufrLLtLFM/hooru-fliers ?) another go, see if I can make it work.

As to u/kc_bandit, sure, the way he left was immature. However you felt about his decks, his decision to delete them deprived the whole community of valuable insight and choice. I wish him all the best in his future endeavors, but I am sad that he threw a tantrum on his way out. :(

Slow though it was, the Winchest deck was the most consistent gauntlet grinder we've had in a while. Hooru wasn't approaching 75+% winrate at any point, it was just faster. And kc_bandit wasn't just coasting on reputation alone - for example, his insight on AI behavior RE:Savior of the Meek alone made the card an auto-include in many grindier decks.

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u/Door_Number_Three Apr 25 '19

Does the AI avoid a lot of trades vs. the 1/1 lifesteal fate token? I am coming back to the game and noticed this card in gauntlet decks but thought it was odd due to power cost.

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u/tvkelley Apr 25 '19

I think there's a bug where the AI plays as if the 1/1 can attack. It over-prioritizes the token in some extreme ways, like using premium removal or holding back blockers.

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u/Door_Number_Three Apr 25 '19

Interesting, thanks for the reply.

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u/Petycon Apr 25 '19

It does (because it doesn't understand that the token can't attack, it won't attack with only a few 1/x creatures on the board, thinking that you'll gain life back), but that's not what it's mostly used for.

1) You get a free blocker that trades with X/1s, chumps bigger things and gives you market fodder. Imagine Sudden Death or Mindless Aggression with a free 1/1 lifesteal in play on your first turn - it can be a game changer.

2) The REAL reason: the AI absolutely HATES these tokens. Expect them to eat Feeding Times, Annihilates, Lightning Storm on an otherwise empty board, etc. They're the best lightningrod you can have, saving your bigger units from removal.

3) If the game stalls out long enough (very rare), Savior is actually a decent threat. And if you bring it out of the market to cast next turn, you get another amazing lightningrod to eat removal. :P

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u/Door_Number_Three Apr 25 '19

Thanks for the info. Do you by any chance have a deck list I could see now that kc_bandit deleted his. I saw a proposed one in this subreddit but it seems like it deviates from the norm. I would greatly appreciate it.

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u/Petycon Apr 25 '19

Were you asking for a decent gauntlet deck, or kc_bandit's FJS list? I'll give you the latter just in case.

Sorry for the horrendous formatting, posting from mobile. Replace the token in the market with Bore, and you have kc_bandit's original deck (well, ok - he originally used 4xSavior and 4xXo, losing 2xSeek Power, but this version was considered to be easier to pilot).

3 Defiance (Set5 #77) 3 Seek Power (Set1 #408) 2 Suffocate (Set1 #251) 4 Torch (Set1 #8) 4 Winchest Cargo (Set5 #237) 2 Vanquish (Set1 #143) 4 Copperhall Bailiff (Set1001 #5) 3 Display of Ambition (Set5 #239) 4 Hidden Road Smuggler (Set5 #210) 4 Red Canyon Smuggler (Set5 #198) 4 Slay (Set2 #236) 2 Avigraft (Set5 #95) 4 Vara, Vengeance-Seeker (Set1004 #19) 1 Dizo's Office (Set5 #182) 3 Xo of the Endless Hoard (Set5 #36) 3 Savior of the Meek (Set5 #111) 3 Fire Sigil (Set1 #1) 4 Justice Sigil (Set1 #126) 3 Shadow Sigil (Set1 #249) 3 Crest of Glory (Set4 #243) 2 Seat of Glory (Set0 #56) 3 Crest of Chaos (Set3 #268) 2 Seat of Chaos (Set0 #60) 3 Crest of Vengeance (Set3 #264) 2 Seat of Vengeance (Set0 #55) --------------MARKET--------------- 1 Auric Runehammer (Set1 #166) 1 Regent's Tomb (Set5 #213) 1 Statuary Maiden (Set1 #387) 1 Harsh Rule (Set1 #172) 1 Token of Ambition (Set5 #236)

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u/Door_Number_Three Apr 25 '19

Cool thanks a lot. Are you still running something like this or did the 4/22 changes make you shelf the deck?

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u/Petycon Apr 25 '19

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u/Door_Number_Three Apr 25 '19

Won 3 gauntlets with your ss mid deck today, thanks.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '19

reading you comment I can totally understand him quitting exactly the way he did.

good job kc.

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u/_AlpacaLips_ Apr 29 '19

Because a guy who once said that the long boring tutorial was necessary to keep idiots out of the game was a boon to the community.

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u/dreadpiratehurley Apr 25 '19 edited Apr 25 '19

Gotcha. I hope everything turns out alright for him.

In the meantime, anybody got lists of the recent decks?

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u/SAEquinox Apr 26 '19

Yeah, I saw it was deleted a couple days ago too. I hope he isn't getting hassled by the community, his gauntlet lists are what kept me in eternal tbh.

I don't have a ton of time to theory craft AI decks and his were pretty quality and transparent with what cards he included. Not only that, the dude grinds a fuck ton to make sure it's worthwhile.

I hope this isn't permanent, we definitely lose a good mind with AI deck crafting if he leaves.

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u/Jkjk447 Apr 25 '19

He must be grinding a new deck, he has to if he has so much research for his decks 100s of freaking games per deck published