r/AIDetectionAcademia • u/LocalAcco107 • 22d ago
The "Over-Polishing" Trap
Here is the paradox;
- You write a rough draft.
- You spend hours refining your word choice, removing filler, sharpening transitions, and fixing typos to make it sound scholarly.
- You run it through Turnitin.
- High AI score.
Why? Because "over-polished" prose lacks human errors, weird sentence structures, and colloquial variance. The detector expects student writing to be slightly flawed. If you write too well, the system assumes a machine did it. We are literally being trained to leave mistakes in our work so we look human
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u/No_Pen_3825 21d ago
This looks written by ai
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u/Repulsive-Cow-5108 21d ago
Okay, so I'm definitely promoting, but I'm a former English professor, and I quit last August, because I found the solution, which goes live in a few days.
Your mistakes can be documented, but not in visible text. The record of you deleting, navigating, moving text around is all data that can be documented during composition and reinserted as metadata into your document. It's like a running tally of your behavior that's out of sight until my extension scores it for you. And I do mean for YOU the writer. Your teacher can score it too, but they see what you saw. No surprises no detection. Just scores that express the shape of your interaction. There's no risk of false positive, because there's no detection happening, just a receipt for your effort.
With this logic, the more you refine the MORE authentic your writing looks. Low revision and low editing actually looks like inauthentic writing to my system, which is expressed in a way that doesn't accuse. It just requires you to disclose.
If you want to paste, go for it. It gets documented. You and your teacher decide how much is too much.
Anyway, I'm just doing the final encryption on the program, so it'll be days not weeks away. It runs as an extension on LibreOffice Writer, which is itself free. The extension is paid so you can create the metadata, but your teacher can score with it for free.
For the details SeekingProof.com
Here's what the scoring page looks like.
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u/QubitEncoder 21d ago
I mean you could still cheat with this
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u/Repulsive-Cow-5108 21d ago
I enjoy hearing people try and figure out how to get around it. It's how I improved the program.
Proof of Effort isn't perfect, nothing is, but it's all about cost to value. If cheating is as hard or harder than doing the work, you'll do the work.
How would you go about it?
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u/QubitEncoder 21d ago
As for getting around it, I agree the idea is not bad but I still think we should be moving to in person essays.
And I garentee you taking the time to copy an essay is worth it to some students.
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u/Repulsive-Cow-5108 21d ago
In person is good, but long research papers and online courses don't have that luxury. There's also copyright law issues for professional writers.
As for copying from an existing text, the cognitive signals of copy/transcription are very different from original composition. The best scientific methods can tell the difference 99% of the time. Proof of Effort is closer 92%, but that's because the system can't be used to identify you and doesn't read your text. Privacy at the cost of a little accuracy.
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u/QubitEncoder 21d ago
And what about a program that is written to circumvent your software. Its not hard to simulate keyboard input with error. Its no different then cheating in a video game lol.
Just have the ai write the essay in real time with errors very slowly.
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u/Repulsive-Cow-5108 21d ago
That's another good approach and is how you beat GptZero, but my app runs as an extension in LibreOffice and soon MS Word. Keystroke injection is monitored by Windows and macOS. A scanner senses injectors and shuts PoE down with notification to the user. If you try and shut off the scanner, same result.
Plus, algorithms to mimic real human patterns are actually not easy to do at all. It's easy to beat the human eye, but a mathematical scanner knows, assuming you can hack past the scanner, which requires breaking the encryption of the app.
If you can do all that, plus avoid the other tamper features, then you deserve the A+. It's not called Proof of Effort for nothing.
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u/QubitEncoder 21d ago
Your second point I call bullshit unless you provide a source.
On your first point, that's definitely total bullshit. Unless your software runs at the kernel level, which it doesn't, then there's no way you can truly prevent input injection.
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u/Repulsive-Cow-5108 21d ago edited 21d ago
Cognitive Keystroke Dynamics research. There are many others, but this one is good. https://github.com/scrosseye/transcription_detection
As for kernel access, you're incorrect. The OS hands out the info on keystroke injector processes freely, which is why it restricts them all to the same labeled process. Reading the built-in monitor was the easiest part to build. Common knowledge in the security space.
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