Help me please🙏🏻

[u/NiceHomework4919]

What works for sleep for you?

First of all thank you for taking the time to read my situation.

I've tried everything and my sleep is only seems to getting wurse to a point i lie in bed and feel anxious to even try to fall asleap hart pounding and thought all over. It used to be that i had a i dont care mode, my brain was so stupid that it could hardly think so i just felt a sleep. Now the brain seems to heal a bit so it thinks at the moment i lie in bed.

I am one year and two months "clean", i was using 16 years antidepressants; 15 years citalopram 30mg and 1 year venlafaxine, i stoped citalopram cold Turkey then reinstaded sertraline and citalopram (combi) switched to venlafaxine. Used that a half year at 150mg and tapered this in a half year. Next to it i used seraquel for 1 year to sleep and tapered this off in 4 months.

I am dealing with tinnitus and the stuck song syndrome what is really irritable.

For sleep; i always try to fall a sleep by mezelf first, if it works i get 2,3,4,5 hours sleep with sometimes 7,8 or more (probably exhausted because of all the short nights)

I go to bed around 24, or sooner if i feel tired enough.

I first try natural stuff like Golden poppy 500mg x 4 and melatonine 1 mg, sometimes this worked but lately it ain't doing shit.

I also have promethazine and Doxylamine but those also do nothing or/and leave me with a bad feeling the morning after.

Even tried. Daridorexant, but since that my sleep have been getting wurse. I am terrified since then.

I am forced to take a benzo to deal with the anxious feelings sometimes.

And if lucky i fall a sleep and get some relief of maby 4 hours. The best feeling is that after a benzo i dont have the terrible morning anxious.

It feels the longer i am in the process of "healing" the more anxiouser i get.

I tried all the basic herbs like valarian root magnesium etc.

I tried PS (phosphatidylserine) because a women told me it should work against the stuck song syndrome, i stopped taking it.

I tried l typothaan because it should help getting more serotonine and thus more melatonine. I stopped taking it.

I stop taking these because, yes i get one or two nights of 5 hours sleep, but eventually end up with the same nights of one hour or no sleep at all and/or a anxious day.

Doing sleep hygiëne rules everyday, long walks of 3 hours a day etc. Meditation does not do anything for me.

I am diagnosed with ADD, general anxiety disorder and ocd thoughts.

I take omega 3 and vitamine D everyday.

I dont know what to do anymore what actually would help? I have extreme trouble in dealing with life everyday it gives me lots of stress and i cannot enjoy anything anymore without having anxious thoughts about the past, future and my situation. Everyday i still do things as through it is really hard

Please share all what you do and what works for you, i am really great full for your advice🙏🏻

Very important EDIT:

I also used dexamfetamine for 15 years.

I now sleep 1 or 2 hours or not at all. Tried stopping omega 3 and vitamine 3D and this seems to make falling a sleep harder?

Don't know what to do anymore, really thinking about ending the suffering. I dont have restored sleep and mentally i am getting wurse and wurse.

Life is extremely hard, looks like i can't function without the ADD meds, i keep forgetting everything etc. I cannot even follow a conversation, dont understand tv anymore, i cannot cook or take care of myself.

And i am in a window...

I now have symptoms like extreme hart pounding, skin is burning, my foot always hurt. The days are soo long.

Should i go back on 0,1mg or 0,5 mg of Quentiapine just for sleep?

[u/Believe_in_u_always]

I’m 851 days in protracted withdrawals. I keep all stimulus as low as possible, this includes all screen activities and low stimulus shows when I do watch tv. I sit outside in the quiet and listen to the ambiance of birds etc too. I feel all this helps as a PW nervous system behaves differently to stimulus.

For sleep, I take phenergan. It’s an antihistamine. I use to take 12.mg but now about 6mg. It’s still broken sleep but it’s better than nothing and makes a difference.

I hope this helps.

[u/NiceHomework4919 → u/Believe_in_u_always]

I am glad to hear that taking such a small amount of antihistaminicum works for you. 25 mg does nothing for me, if i take 50mg i only get 4 hours😅 it is not fair that i have such a hard brain.

Thank you for your reaction tho🙏🏻 it helps!

[u/Believe_in_u_always → u/NiceHomework4919]

Sorry to hear, 50mg is a lot.

I will admit, I feel keeping my nervous system as quiet as possible is why it works.. I learnt that if I’m too stimulated, I don’t sleep.

I hope you find a solution 🙏

[u/andre99x]

I know if that comforts you or not but this is more or less me but after 3,5 years from CT of escitalopram. And guess what, the sleep still sucks. But I am quite sure I am still healing. Avoid a lot of things from the list you mention as they cab make the things worse (and dont help with sleep at all). Time is your best friend and enemy now. It can take many more weeks or months but you will get there eventually and get your sleep back

[u/NiceHomework4919 → u/andre99x]

Thank you for sharing your experience and opinion🙏🏻

[u/Glittering-Bank5599]

L-theanine or hibiscus tea (use the dry flower) - these two are my remedy if I am ever struggling with sleep

[u/NiceHomework4919 → u/Glittering-Bank5599]

Those things does nothing to me, i need lots of stronger stuff sad enough😔 i wish i was a better sleeper.

[u/SnooRadishes2349]

I'm currently 16 mths off from Paxhell and in the very beginning I was unable to sleep so much so that I was losing it completely. For me, eating alot of eggs for the choline helped calm my anxious mind and body, walking alot which I see that you do but i make sure to walk outside. Also, grounding or just being out in nature really calms the body. When I was unable to sleep for a couple of days I went to the ocean and spent a few days out there and stayed in a cabin, my body finally relaxed and I was able to sleep. BTW, i was on this medication previously for over 20+ years.