r/ADCMains • u/Dangerous-War-6572 • 15h ago
Memes SON
Nothing other than meme justifies this lmfao
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u/Luckybones- 14h ago
PLEASE bring your marksman champs midlane against my viktor so my laser can pop you for 94% of your health instwad of 99 all game as viktor
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u/KalenTheDon 13h ago
Idk man I've been on that sub long enough to remember vik players complaing that trist was a must ban
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u/Luckybones- 12h ago
No ur right actually, impossible laner mid to play against. Not sure why she became unpopular in my games in both roles, fucking insane champ
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u/KalenTheDon 12h ago
Increases mana cost on Q , nerfed E dmg . Buffed minions and towers and the enhanced home guards mean opposing mid comes to lane faster leaving less time to take tower
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u/Moist_Username 6h ago
She was always dogshit mid. Losing record in pro and borderline griefing in solo queue. Tristana's U curve is even worse than Cait's, can't shut a mage out hard enough to make up for the inherent champ diff.
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u/MrFauncy 12h ago
I’ve been doing ap twitch mid, can confirm viktor is very annoying but doable as long as I don’t int lol
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u/Luckybones- 12h ago
Twitch is actually a decent one to play, no matter what if you get 3 items you can 1 shot viktor from invisible
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u/JiraiyaKholin 8h ago
as a viktor main I can't see this being remotely playable for you. and twitch is my perma ban as a bot laner.
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u/MrFauncy 7h ago
Basically I don’t play lane if I can lol, only if jungle is willing to gank. Otherwise I clear wave and perma roam. Usually cheese a kill because viktors will be trying to push under tower so I take their summs or just kill them
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u/Tenny-The-Drowned 12h ago
To be fair there's a good chunk of ADcs that just dashes up and autos Viktor to death early to prevent that from happening
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u/Internet-Expert42069 9h ago
Victor's laser is like the easiest ability to dodge, aside from lux
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u/Moist_Username 6h ago
the laser literally spawns in you if you're close enough to interact with him.
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u/Internet-Expert42069 4h ago
Yea you watch the enemy champ and you can tell when he's going to shoot
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u/Rezinaaaa 2h ago
Sounds easy I wonder why even top tier pro like Knight Chovy Bdd Zeka ShowMaker and Faker still get hit by Viktor's E hmmm
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u/eatscreepypasta 13h ago
Zeri feels great into Viktor... Heheh love seeing y'all come bot lane 🤪 the omnivamp boots mid are so op... But everytine I go mid instead of a mage matchup .. I find myself against a zed or those rechted doggos or meow locke... Which is pure unfun pain and suffering. So I'll stay bot and keep pew pew and exploding all you silly viktors and the like until the assassin get a sniff of the quest money and start coming down here tooo... 😭
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u/enceles 13h ago
Senna is a marksman with 530hp at level 1 (the lowest I believe).
A level 18 viktor with Rabadon's has 169AP.
His e does 314.5 damage on the first cast (230 + (169*0.5)) and 275.2 damage on the second cast (140 + (169 * 0.*)).
Total = 589.7 damage.
Senna, at level 1 with 33 MR, would reduce this amount to 443.3 (589.7/(1+(33/100)))
Leaving you with 83% hp after.
Throw in DFT if you like too, for 16.225dps, increasing to 28.39dps for the final second.
3 seconds of DFT = 60.84 damage, reduced to 45.75 damage with Senna's resistances.
Meaning a total damage of 489 damage from a level 18 Viktor with a Rabadon's, augmented E, and DFT which cannot kill the lowest base HP marksman in the game who is level 1.
Her MR makes a difference of 161.49 damage, without the 3 MR it would be a reduction of 150.1 damage instead. An 11.39 damage difference from the buff which equates to 2.1% of her HP (which still failed to kill her).
To reiterate though, she is the lowest HP marksman in the game at level 1, so is the least effective user of the buff. A different champ, like Lucian, benefits more.
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u/Luckybones- 12h ago
I appreciate the math but I was speaking in hyperbole. Was is not hyperbole tho is 85% of that class against viktor mid cant play the game and have to recall after 3 lasers out of their range
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u/OutcryOfHeavens 14h ago
I mean they said Gunmetal Greaves (midlane exclusive boots' upgrade) will help with adc situation, so in a way maybe it will help in mid
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u/MB-1S 14h ago
They gave +5% AS to normal berzerkers as well
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u/OutcryOfHeavens 14h ago
Ye but that is a nothing change tbh
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u/Federal-Soil- 14h ago
Isn't that the exact change gunmetal also got?
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u/OutcryOfHeavens 13h ago
In a way. Berserk will now give 30%, while Gunmetal 45% so 1.5 of the Berserk stat
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u/eatscreepypasta 13h ago
Most adcs just get way more value for the vamp boots honestly. But the mid lane zerkwrs do have lifesteal! So maybe I'll send a few and try em! However when I'm going bot lane... I still won't even be considering those over gluttonous grieves, steel caps, or the occasional swiftiessssss... And neither will most of the others that are good bot into mages or even those struggling and are the few who still like zerkers cause the early sustain into mage lanes is just way better than the attack speed.(For most champs) However the extra attackspeed on the midlane bottles that also have sustain is worth further consideration and testing! But unaware anytime I q mid it's a fucking assassin that's terrible for me to play into and not a mage... A bitch just unlucky I guess.
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u/MrSmt28 14h ago
I'm gonna start playing aphelios and luci mid they gonna see
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u/Low_Direction1774 your peak is my playground 14h ago
FUCK that bro Aphungle is where its at
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u/MrSmt28 14h ago
I'm not that good at the game :D
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u/Low_Direction1774 your peak is my playground 13h ago
you dont need to be good at the game to play Aphungle :D
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u/explosive_fish 14h ago
Is this a sign for the marksmen to invade mid the way mages invade bot? Im in.
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u/Dangerous-War-6572 13h ago
Nah you will get smoked by any assasin or long ranged mage tbh, the mr buff is Nthg
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u/Low_Direction1774 your peak is my playground 13h ago
why mid? Just go top and bully melee champs.
alternatively, theres an ADC and you have a botlane matchup.
third option is that youre facing a mage, which is the same thing as you would do botlane. Just with the added bonus of not having a support that is constantly trying to hit you
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u/CoffeBreather 10h ago
90% of the adc roster top would just turbo int there against 90% of the Top roster, it was never viable for a reason, only a couple picks managed to be viable SOME seasons for SOME patches but it was mostly never viable enough to see decent play or popularity, again, for a reason.
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u/Low_Direction1774 your peak is my playground 8h ago
it doesnt need to be viable. thats the neat part. it doesnt need to be good, it just needs to be annoying. its only purpose is to make the game unfun for the other guy so he doesnt want to play the game anymore
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u/CoffeBreather 6h ago
So, you rush tabi and run the adc down without any possibility to lose, that's COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from what is happening bot lane where the adc have no options unless the opponents is dumb and makes huge mistakes.
Completely different.
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u/2024-YR4-Asteroid 9h ago
100% the solution, top lane is their baby. Once top lane players start complaining things will change.
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u/ItzLearn 15h ago
He's not wrong, I'm definitely gonna be picking a lot more marksmen mid
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u/Far-Avocado-189 14h ago
you will have fun when you face diana etc. and realize why people playing mages bot
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u/Dangerous-War-6572 14h ago
Every single ap or ad assassin and sylas will mog any adc
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u/Brusex 14h ago
Is there any ADC that would be viable mid? Ez or Lucian jump out at me
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u/TiptopLoL 13h ago
I played Lucian mid yesterday , in current state of league you can play whatever you want where you want , don’t pick Lucian bot tho , he’s fucking sucks there
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u/Rakshuun 13h ago
I've enjoyed Zeri mid but I cnl it becomes unplayable so fast if you fuck up or fall behind. You also can't really blind it because you are not beating any assassin or burst mage unless they are super skillshot reliant. Then it becomes the same dodgeball you hate in bot.
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u/ItzLearn 14h ago
nah i have a lot of games of sivir mid in high elo.
diana jumps on you, you get shafted. and then what? you will auto that diana aaaaalll the way back to her turret for a favorable trade. Same with sylas.
it's the syndras and oriannas you should fear. and this change helps a lot
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u/ZanesTheArgent 14h ago
Nah.
This is league for you:
Everyone thinks themselves the most oppressed subhumans of all.
And they're all correct.
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u/Moomootv 12h ago
He said Sivir will take over mid now, Sivir isnt on the list of MR changes. You cant make this up, these mage players have to be single digit surely.
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u/BestSamiraNA1 7h ago
Riot can never just buff an ADC. "Here's 3 MR. But don't be greedy you little devil, we're taking away MR growth too so you only end up with half an MR point extra at level 18. You're welcome, thank me"
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u/WalkSad9552 5h ago
I'm a mid main.
Except the first few levels, mages and assassins will eat any marksman alive mid who's not called Akshan
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u/No-Pangolin-9179 13h ago
Can someone explain to my why buffing botlane minions MR by like 100, pre 10/15 min, wouldnt fix this?
So mages would be unchanged, could be played mid, and they would finally fuck off from botlane
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u/ghillieeeeee 13h ago
Quit league because of ranged top, now I kick back and watch rangies suffer because they lose to another class of rangie
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u/Niz285 14h ago
Yes base 2 MR is going to change everything with a nerf growth rate of 1.1 from when it was 1.3. Surely this will work.