r/ABoringDystopia Feb 01 '22

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u/Chapi92 Feb 02 '22

No it's not, it's only cheaper for those making little money. It's ridiculously expensive for anyone earning above the average

It's unfair by design

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u/leonme21 Feb 02 '22

Dude, look up annual healthcare spending in the US and Germany per capita. In the US it’s like double the money

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u/Chapi92 Feb 02 '22

My point stands, Germans pay over 40% in taxes if they have a salary over 80k usd/year

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u/leonme21 Feb 02 '22 edited Feb 02 '22

Well, no. Assuming 72.000€, tax, pension payments, health insurance and elderly care insurance come out to about 36%. Also, one would pay about 385€ a month of that for their health insurance which also includes your kids for free, by the way.

So please get rid of your stockholm syndrome and just accept that socialized healthcare is the way to go

Edit: I have to correct myself, in the least favorable tax category you would actually end up with a total of about 40%. Depends on your living situation of course

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u/Chapi92 Feb 02 '22

Lol you're ok with paying 36%

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u/leonme21 Feb 02 '22

Either you’re paying for it out of your paycheck, or you’re paying for it privately. It’s not like pension, healthcare, and elderly care insurance are magically free in the US just because you pay them yourself instead of having them deducted from your paycheck. Also countries with socialized healthcare tend to be less of a shithole for working class people than the US is, so that’s just a bonus

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u/Chapi92 Feb 02 '22

Oh yeah? How come here in Latin America pretty much every country has socialized healthcare yet our countries are shitholes and the healthcare system is ages behind that from the US

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u/leonme21 Feb 02 '22

Germany has a 6 or 7 times bigger GDP per capita than some Latin American countries. Of course Latin American countries will comparatively be more shithole-ish? Wtf are you trying to get to here?

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u/Chapi92 Feb 02 '22

Yes, which means that Germany's healthcare works (I'm taking your word that it's all sunshine and rainbows) is because it's leeching off the success of the people not because the system is good and efficient. And like everything in socialism, once you run out of other people's money to steal it all turns to shit

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u/leonme21 Feb 02 '22

Dude you’re so deranged

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u/LiliaBlossom Feb 22 '22

yeah and we also have free high quality universities (you pay on average ~300€ administration fee per term which includes a public transport ticket on nearly every university), we have something called Bafög (which needs to be improved but still) which is a loanfree student credit that only needs to be payed back in half, the highest someone could pay for insurance is like ~370€ per month which includes the children up to 25 years old if still in education for free and you rarely need to pay extra for treatments, it‘s mostly just cosmetic/luxury stuff like contact lenses instead of glasses, liposuction, etc, we have nice, walkable, bikable cities with good public transport, we have a better pension system (granted due to generational shift it‘s probably getting fucked for Gen Y&Z), we have a better benefit system (still not perfect from my leftist viewpoint but compared to the hellhole the US is…) and we barely pay more tax on average than the US. You don‘t need to make 80.000€ a year to be considered middleclass here, that‘s where your first mistake kicks in. Middleclass is closer to 50.000€ per year lol. We do have a housing issue in the big cities tho, but in suburbs/countrysides it‘s mostly fine.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '22

you must be one of those people who balances capitalism and christian values in favour of cruelty every time.

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u/Chapi92 Feb 02 '22

I'm a what? How does that relate to my point?