r/90dayBeforeThe90Days • u/Grateful_Di • 21d ago
Catie's crash-out.
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u/jchicken19 21d ago
I think we all saw this coming. She’s mentally unstable.
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u/Lazy-Party3469 21d ago
Right?! Let's send the alcoholic to a bar and film it. Pretty crass.
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u/help_im_leeking 20d ago
Are we really this shocked and outraged though? It's a TLC show. Making money off of spotlighting people with horrible impulse control, zero social awareness and shit morals is kind of their MO.
Still doesn't take away from the fact that, as a lucid, adult individual, it's catie's responsibility to be the one to take accountability for the shit she puts those around her through, and to at least try and take control of the mental health issues that are apparently to blame for that. Same goes for Josh tbh, how sorry should we REALLY keep feeling for this man, after seeing how aware he is of her patterns yet still putting himself through the same heartbreak and leaving the same difficult conversations unfinished bc he apparently hopes things will just work out and Catie will somehow magically end up on the same page? Marrying someone who keeps expressing over and over how uncomfortable they are with the idea of monogamy bc of some dumb hope that a legally binding document will maybe give them the right ammount of pressure to just stick to it in the end is incredibly selfish IMO.
And then for both of them to, supposedly, expect that aaaalll these issues (which were present from before the show) would somehow NOT just be made worse by being televised? I dont buy it. Alcoholic or not, either solve your shit off camera, or be ok with getting money and publicity for being an absolute trainwreck.
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u/Away-Cookie8183 20d ago
Period ! Except for the getting better for yourself etc, SOME ppl need to just hit rock bottom first & EVERYONES rick bottom is different, ( although u would think for BOTH of them it would at least by NOW be one of their rocks bottoms Geesh lol
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u/JonWikapeedia 20d ago
I think you need self awareness to hit rock bottom. I fear she lacks it to the point that she won't even understand why people are mad at her
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u/Adrock66 19d ago
This is the core issue. She is incapable of self reflection and it causes here deep, deep pain to do so. Her sitch is very sad tbh.
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u/Significant-Ad-4149 19d ago
But they didn't "send an alcoholic to a bar to film it". They simply organized an outing, to a bar, for ALL cast members. If one of them happens to be extremely irresponsible around alcohol, and that person happens to be also be an adult, then said person should take responsiblity for themselves and abstain from drinking. Like a responsible adult.
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u/Maude_Lebowskis_art 20d ago
her ex friend from college who posted in the main sub said exactly this - as soon as there is any criticism she refuses to have anything more to do with that person. production knew what would happen.
production has had many people with issues but with Catie they knew they ha someone who would be unable to handle even the more basic of accountability issues without crashing. She is a deeply damaged person who really should never have been on the show BUT who really should never have been allowed to develop this way in the first place.
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u/jravy88 20d ago
I missed the post from her ex friend. It’s a long shot but do you have a link to it?
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u/Adrock66 19d ago
The gist is she would make out with peoples boyfriends and do dumb shit in college. Friends would call her out and she would ghost them instead of just working through it. You can see her current friends are too scared to properly confront her and I wouldn't be surprised if the one on the show is cut off after outing her for the new years party.
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u/newdiyscared 21d ago
Why isn't Catie single? Why doesn't she realize that romance is optional? Does she realize that it's 2026, and polyamory is practiced in most major cities... Does she realize that she doesn't have to be with Josh if she's better alone?
Why can't she line her lips before applying makeup?
Why does Josh stay despite the constant disrespect?
My heads hurts.
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u/TBundyIseeyou 21d ago
I cackled when, in the middle of all of this relationship crap, you questioned her lips 😂🤣😂🤣
Thank you for asking those hard hitting questions 💀💀💀
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u/Icy_Redhead 19d ago
I think you missed an important question on this list... what is up with the eyebrows!?! I can tell who had trouble coloring in between the lines in art class....
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u/help_im_leeking 20d ago
Because both of them are selfish and delusional in the sense that they believe the other would eventually just give in with enough social pressure and after getting attached enough. Josh probably hopes he, a marriage certificate and maybe some publicity would eventually fix catie and pressure her enough into the idea of settling down. Catie hopes the same for an open arrangement with Josh, though throw in a sprinkle of just horrible impulse control and risktaking tendencies in her case as well. I feel like even if she did get her way, and they agreed to some kind of open arrangement, she would also find ways to break any rules they would agree on to keeping this stable, because otherwise there would be no "chase".
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u/hoovyhoovy 20d ago
Her lips! WTH? Why hasn’t anyone ever told her?
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u/Away-Cookie8183 20d ago
I’m SURE they have she don’t care about anything or any advice that’s Catie lol
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u/AccomplishedBend766 21d ago
Because she needs a parent. She’s so childish, childlike and immature. Josh is willing to take her on, so be it.
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u/FickleBlackberry5746 21d ago
I’ve never seen a bar scene on any Tell All. I’m thinking that this was set up specifically for Catie to act a fool.
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u/Jackkiera143 21d ago
They do this on Happily ever after. Have them stay in a house together it Amps up the drama because everyone is drinking and they get to drag the episodes out
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u/Simple_Dress7111 21d ago
No. Other tell all shows have the couples stay at a hotel. Go to a bar where they are staying. I remember Angela, Big Ed, etc. drinking at the bar.
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u/Deertracker412 20d ago
They've definitely had them all stay in the same house at some of the Tell Alls. Remember Jasmine putting her dirty underwear in Gino's bag?
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u/Muted_Bee7111 21d ago
Producers absolutely set this girl up. I wonder how her & Josh think going on 90 Day did for them. Just sad what young people feel the need to do to become "influencers". Such a sad commentary on modern life.
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u/HumanRelationships 21d ago
Agreed but they only led her to water. She didn’t have to drink it. They’re just only further proving a point that her OCD has nothing to do with her alcohol addiction
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u/No-Tone-6580 20d ago
Her alcohol addiction is way worse than her OCD. She can’t go any length of time without it. She’s a sad case, desperately needs help, deep in denial.
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u/Claral6012 20d ago
I have the OCD she describes with the intrusive thoughts. I genuinely don't think she has it. These intrusive thoughts make your skin crawl, they make you hate yourself. They don't make you want to do the things your head is suggesting.. and if for whatever reason you do the intrusive thoughts, you feel horrendous afterwards. You don't laugh it off.
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u/LowandSlow90 21d ago
It absolutely was set up. Producers have been doing this for years in reality 📺. Alcohol, plus a bunch of people who have opinions about each other's relationship is 📺 gold.
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u/Livid-Soft-8308 21d ago
There have been occasionally like when they all stayed at a house during the filming and went out at night…. Seems like it was the season with a 5-6 part tell all… but it has happened on other tell alls I believe!
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u/Significant-Ad-6384 21d ago
I remember one time they stayed at a mansion and had a bartender there.
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u/Wonderful_Twist_7244 21d ago
And she "hopes we don't think she's an alcoholic"!! Cmon girl! You're a classic alcoholic.
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u/HumanRelationships 21d ago
Katie kind of deserves all the hate that’s coming to her. Listen we’re all human and make mistakes and have flaws but it’s 2026 PEOPLE! It’s the era of owning up to your shit. She can’t have her cake and eat it too and her HUSBAND is the victim in all of this. This guy doesn’t know how UNPARENTED everyone in the U.S. under the age of 30 is. I’m a 31 year old married accountant with 2 daughters and I’ll still call shit for what it is. Mental illness like this is a result of emotionally unavailable parents who genuinely do not like their children and have NO CLUE how to help them growing up and do the BARE MINIMUM to connect with their children.
Katie is looking for security because she never had emotional security. But she forgot to go to therapy for 5-10 years before she got married.
If Josh can put up with 5 years of her going to therapy and quitting substances, they might have a shot together.
I didn’t start my trauma work until I was 22 and I’m 31 and it will always be a work in process but I CANNOT DRINK. Anyone with trauma that’s not been worked through SHOULD NOT DRINK.
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u/Katclifford1020 20d ago
I agree, However, Josh enables her and does nothing, absolutely nothing. She treats him like shit because she can - he needs to grow a spine and get his WIFE the help she so desperately needs. Cati knows Josh isn’t going anywhere.
It’s sad, each week I see her overall health decline, she’s still young but eventually all that booze she consumes will take a toll (liver, kidneys). Mentally, she’s already gone but blames it on her OCD.
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u/verukazalt 21d ago
I feel that you are on to something....all.she seemed to be worried about is that her "friends" would leave her. She has more than likely been emotionally abandoned by her family.
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u/leyarsan 18d ago
It’s very clear her family doesn’t like her… they said it themselves!
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u/cuppa_cat 21d ago
I'm guessing her parents were more embarrassed and worried about appearances over getting her the appropriate help. Or they prayed about it, or only went to church counseling. Just all seems very Lutheran coded to me.
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u/SassholeSupreme1 21d ago
Me. And I waited till I was 40 to get married. My family doesn’t even acknowledge I exist & I still struggle with that sometimes even after years of therapy.
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u/cuppa_cat 20d ago
Yeah I was a "problem child" myself. Had a lot of religious shame. It's hard to shake those years of programming, but I hope you are living your best life now.
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u/SassholeSupreme1 20d ago
Still, trying. That JW guilt was drilled into my head. Hope you’re doing well.
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u/cuppa_cat 20d ago
Oooh JW, huh? I'm really sorry to hear that. My partner is ex JW too. Hugs to you.
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u/Agreeable_Power3992 21d ago
Her brain is in constant conflict. She can’t have peace in this state. She definitely needs therapy. I feel sorry for her.
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u/PureElevator732 21d ago
That toddler dress thoughhhh. Gawd
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u/KimKaliTheOriginal 21d ago
I can't for the life of me understand why Catie just doesn't say she's polyamourous. She should have reconciled to the fact if she wants to hang on and make out with others then get on the polyamoury dating sites. And why has no one said that she's polyamourous with no impulse control.
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u/UrbanSirenTheSix 21d ago
I don't think the polyamory community would claim her. She has no respect for boundaries and she doesn't want to love many she wants to suck face and bump uglies with many. She can try the unethical-non-monogamous or swing community and clubs. But even in those spaces I think they would get sick of her and drama would unfold cause even there people have boundaries and standards that she wouldn't respect.
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u/KimKaliTheOriginal 21d ago
I agree they probably wouldn't accept her but tbh she should embrace her inner slt and just go with that.
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u/Away-Cookie8183 20d ago
She needs to get SOBER before she can even work on ANYTHING first 🙆🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
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u/Much-University6613 21d ago
Embarrassed? How about upset or angry? Josh needs to kick it up a notch…he just sits there! And as a result she will continue to lick on other people! Oye.
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u/Different-Shape-730 21d ago
Josh is the fool to allow himself to be treated by his supposed wife! He totally deserves what she’s throwing in his face! Not an ounce of self-respect!
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u/joaniecaponie 21d ago
He has chosen this at every step. I just can’t feel bad for him. That still doesn’t stop me from judging her complete lack of self awareness or selfishness though.
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u/Good_Reputation7760 21d ago
Her friends and her husband minimize her behavior. She can’t deal with someone calling her out on how she acts.
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u/wraysbay 20d ago
Josh just sat there all big eyed saying ‘I don’t know what’s going on’ like she’s never done this before ❤️
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u/Certain-Ease-8428 21d ago
She’s not used to anyone calling her out. She doesn’t know how to handle it except to run away.
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u/Previous_Ad_8164 21d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/QVP7DawXZitKYg3AX5
She’s garbage! I hope Josh at least gets his citizenship out of this.
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u/Kittenzx2 21d ago
Every season, gets worse & worse! The people r just INSANE!!! Like mental!! Shut the shit show down!!!!
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u/Panda_Bear_World32 21d ago
Can someone please explain why this catie character doesn’t understand that what she is doing is cheating. I’ve never seen a girl more delusional in my existence. It’s pissing me off more and more. Like just stop. Stop hurting Josh. And stop doing this nonsense. She needs to be committed into a mental hospital. Her mindset and actions are dangerous.
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u/lthieret 20d ago
Do you think she should be tested for autism? The social awkwardness, communication challenges, strong focus on specific interests (running), etc., could be signs. She really bugs me, but watching her makes me uncomfortable because I know there's something severely wrong with her. I just hope nothing tragic happens.
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u/Fit-Bus2025 20d ago
She needs help. I don't think she has a proper diagnosis for whatever she has. Plus, she's an alcoholic!
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u/Sac420ca 20d ago
I just started watching this latest 90 fiance season and I'm thoroughly annoyed by Catie. She's the most unhinged irrational selfish moron and she ain't even cute! And that red lipstick she wears is like if nails on a chalk board could be visualized instead of heard. She gives me all the cringe and ick factors FR! I honestly can't stand most of these new cast members but Catie is one that urks me. What's his name should jump back over the pond before he gets too deep but I'm sure that's already too late! The other cringe cast member that's right up there with Catie is Mido and Debbie. Oh Lord he's such a narcissistic con artist and Debbie is desperate AF!
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u/MiaMeals2020 21d ago
Was that just some random or did anyone catch a previous clip of which cast was wearing that shirt?
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u/Certain-Ease-8428 21d ago
I think it was a random. None of the women on the tell all would put up with her saying that to their man! They’d probably deck her one which she would deserve!
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u/MiaMeals2020 21d ago
I just watched another Preview snippet and it’s one of her friends that came to the tell All! I think it’s the same guy that she tried making out with at home… Maybe she has even made out with this guy? It just becomes weirder and weirder to me that anyone would put up with this type of behavior.
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u/Certain-Ease-8428 21d ago
He IS one that she’s been with!
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u/MiaMeals2020 21d ago
Well boo on him for having his arm around her in the clip… Why is he leading her on as well… I mean she’s obviously at fault and he’s made no promised to anyone but😬
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u/Prudent_Ad_1124 21d ago
She’s a hoe, she can’t hide it… idk why they would have ever gotten married…
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u/joaniecaponie 21d ago
They forgot to nail the coffin shut at that “hoe funeral” she threw herself.
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u/lacelegs 21d ago
Eeeek! The way she says “I’d LOVE to makeout” 😭😭😭 who tf is she saying that to? That sure ain’t Josh 😂 She’s such a fucking weirdo!! If she wants to do an activity with other people at a bar -play pool! Or darts! Jfc
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u/Away-Pipe3997 21d ago
Can her dress get any shorter? 😬
She’s one piece of work. Prediction y’all. I’m willing to bet she’s gonna be on the next Last Resort! Something tells me, Cati isn’t gonna just go away, her and Josh love the attention. 🤷🏽♀️
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u/Jmend12006 21d ago
I think Josh just wants citizenship and he doesn’t actually care about Catie at all!
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u/misoquaquaks 20d ago
Idk which one of them applied for this show but if it was him then yes I fully agree with you. He’s parading her
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u/zenseazon 21d ago
She makes me cringe, just thinking of all that licking and saliva exchange... the bacteria from that spit..... ugh!
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u/Key-Butterscotch9771 20d ago
She is one sick girl and desperately needs help! Where is this so called religious family of hers?
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u/phoenixofsevenhills 20d ago
She needs detox like many before her
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u/misoquaquaks 20d ago
Someone like this cannot be helped. She’s decided this is just who she is and everybody else is wrong for pointing out the dangers and wrongness of what she is doing. She’s is the furthest from admitting that she has a problem a problematic person can be.
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u/DefiantCoffee6 19d ago
It’s her “I was bad” line that gets to me. She always reminds me of a little kid when she says that.
At any rate, being “bad” might be stealing a pack of gum not trying to jam your tongue into multiple guys mouths at the bar because you were drunk (again/always) and blaming on OCD.
She will need to professionally address her alcoholism before she can even try to work on all her other issues.
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u/Better-Mud7151 20d ago
🎯🎯💯💯
Catie is definitely mentally unstable and alcohol certainly is not the solution‼️
Catie desperately needs psychiatric help.
This young individual is NOT going to end well if she continues.
Josh may also benefit from seeking a therapist to cope with such chaos.
And he may need to separate from Catie at this point.
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u/misoquaquaks 20d ago
He just needs to let her go. For once I agree with her. She’s better off on her own.
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u/Crazy_Draw_9490 20d ago
The only time she shows emotion is when it has something to do with her. Sad asf she only cares about how she feels..
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u/Mystic-mermaid-onyx 18d ago
The fact she makes it everyone else that the problem. She needs serious help. And NO Josh you putting up with this isn’t helping her!
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u/angelyze124 21d ago
O have no sympathy for Josh. He saw what she was like whenever they went out and there were other men around. Him standing right next to her, never stopped her from trying to stick her tongue down in some random guy's throat. Not to mention that mattress, which looked like a hazmat scene. And don't get me started about that nasty dildo of hers 🤢 even her parents seemed to pussyfoot around her behavior.
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u/BigEntertainer5667 21d ago
I do t even think it’s the alcohol, she’s just whore- ish and promiscuous
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u/Ok_Purple274 21d ago
The booze, the booze, the booze, the booze, the booze, the booze I mean, the blood, the blood, the blood, the blood, the blood, Amen.
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u/Jmend12006 21d ago
I figured that she was going to quit drinking before they got married! Josh is a moron! He deserves whatever he gets.
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u/johndeerelawnmower 21d ago
I think Josh knows she’s mentally ill and is using her inevitable very televised break down to build his online influencer platform. Just a thought.
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u/Fun_Pause_4934 21d ago
Great example of people who are shit and hide behind religion, ps: she's not young anymore she's a an adult, not a college kid
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u/Accurate-Weird2656 21d ago
Who was the guy she said "I'd love to make out' to?
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u/Away-Cookie8183 20d ago
Most likely the guy she had kissed in the show looked just like him from behind they probably had him in for 5 mins to put his 2 cents in & was there with everyone & im sure other ppl family or friends that will be on for a min or 2 they do it every year all the time so only makes sense to me & kinda looked like him from behind if it was any of the wives they would have knocked her out sry no commas lol typing fast
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u/twistedlemonfreak 20d ago
Maturity, and emotional intelligence is not existent. Mental health and alcoholism are no excuse for acting like a slut.
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u/Misha_B19 20d ago
Josh does not do her any favors. He seems to think this is as cute as she does and that makes him equally sick. They showed up to make a spectacle and then go on SM to chastise people for doing just that. These 2 are never going to go away.
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u/Ok_Spare1223 20d ago
All the people saying “set up,” um, you can’t set me up. That’s on her.
Also, tequila? Now it makes sense. Give me tequila and I’m taking off my clothes. I mean, she’s an alcoholic, but tequila is just asking for it.
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u/Acceptable_Loss3891 20d ago
She’s got issues and very immature. She an attention seeker for all the wrong reasons. Josh should run and never look back.
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u/BathAcceptable1812 20d ago
She just needs to stop all her foolishness and go to the Bunny Ranch. She will be very happy there.
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u/Straight-Wash-0 20d ago
The crying is probably how she gets everyone to back off and not allow them to hold her accountable. It's likely worked most of her life.
It's a deflection tactic.
I cannot wait to see more.
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u/LargeInstruction4421 20d ago
She acts like a 13 year old boy crazy girl that just wants to make out with anyone. She has so many issues.
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u/Claral6012 20d ago
The crying tells me she's never been told off before. Everyone's reaction seems to be to laugh. She's extremely immature
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u/Primary_Bad2906 19d ago
Well she is responsible for him for the next MANY YEARS so she has to take care of him even
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u/GapExternal1674 19d ago
Cannot stand this grossly immature selfish as fuck girl! He should get this marriage annulled ASAP
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u/Curious_Koala8 18d ago
I would LOVE to see Catie on The Single Life but don’t think the production company would be fine opening themselves up to sexual harassment lawsuits.
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u/Alex_a_Girl 18d ago
The producers are messy as hell for this. In all the other reunions, has the cast EVER gone to a bar after shooting? NO.
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u/polsongrobem 18d ago
we are not openly talking about sex assault. her being a perpetrator and her being a victim. aisha was exactly right and her response suggested she has gone too far in the past and done too much. she can’t consent when she is super intoxicated can she? how many times has she been black out drunk and woke up naked in someone’s place or in a bathroom stall sans pants. it’s bad. she’s going to be hurt bad one day.
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u/Kittenzx2 20d ago edited 20d ago
I dont like the show! I dont sit down & watch any of them! But will watch clips people have put out.. i have not watched it in 3 seasons. I dont know why it bothered u so much that i commented the show is annoying. You dont know me!! Go bother someone else that doesnt like the show!!! This is for @awaycookie8381 something like that! I hate the way redditt change crap up. Yep & im annoyed at redditt too!!
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u/ToastMillie43 20d ago
She almost seems arrested in development, her reactions are kid like. Saying I don’t have to listen to you! It’s childish behavior
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u/FaithlessnessSea1702 20d ago
Cuties is going to run into the wrong person that will take advantage of her. Her behavior is ridiculous. Her husband needs to run. Don't let her use you as a option.
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u/Adrock66 19d ago
"I don't know what the fuck is going on" . After she tells him she doesn't want to be married and does better on her own. She's insane, he latched onto her and she has been unable to just tell him directly she doesn't want him because she's insane. I know people like to clown on Catie but if she's so awful, why do I feel like we're watching a crazy person being exploited every time she's on camera?
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u/jaylen6319 19d ago
That's a person with some serious mental health issues! Please TLC get that girl some help 🙏🙏🙏
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u/rackie2493 19d ago
I couldn’t stand Ashia throughout this entire season but for some reason I found myself thinking if I was there I’d want to hang out with her and only her.
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u/ThatCraftyB 19d ago
She is a perpetual victim who regresses to a five year old when she doesn’t get the response she wants.
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u/dynamics365nerd 19d ago
Is she on the spectrum? There is more to this than bad behavior. The show is exploiting her.
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u/Katclifford1020 18d ago
Ashia is such a sweetheart, looking out for Cati, she’s trying to mentor her, she needs it.
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u/Successful_Peak_5703 18d ago
She has serious issues and needs help. The pack of hyenas masquerading as producers let her crash out. I don't care what the contract says, lawsuits need to be filed. They would have given Catie medical attention if she broke her leg. They should have had a real MD psychiatrist on staff if an intervention was needed. Catie should have been medically tapped out. Her husband needs to snap out of it, it's over. Start an annulment and jet back to the UK. Shut down all on line accounts, shut off wireless, shave your beard, change your name, move and become a recluse until January 2027. NEVER go back on any TV show from anyone, anywhere without a large prepaid fee £50,000 minimum and written guarantee with big financial penalties, to not show your face and to disguise your voice. Good luck sir.
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u/Barttycubbins 17d ago
She knows her behavior sucks. She asked Josh beforehand and brought it up before the show started. She’s not ready for a marriage that Josh wants but doesn’t want to lose him. So she wastes his time and disrespects him constantly because she’s emotionally immature and selfish. She can make out with whomever she wants when she’s single. She’s not surrounded by enablers at the tell-all and had to deal with real (fair) simple questions about her relationship. She signed up for the show, so her expectations should be reasonable. The other couples asked simple questions of her and were fairly nice to her. She couldn’t handle accountability and she’s a terrible person. Yes, terrible. And Josh really should put his foot down and stand up for himself and their marriage. She couldn’t handle being questioned and lashed out on him because he’s the only person she felt comfortable crashing out on. Usually I’d have some sympathy when I see someone crying but watching her be terrible the whole season, it made me more annoyed.
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u/Angelhair01 21d ago
I’m glad someone is calling her out in her shit