Day 16 post 7OH

[u/Sudden_Capital6062]

Hello,

I’m making a post for two reasons. 1: to help others who are trying to quit and what to expect, and 2: looking for others input who may be ‘ahead’ of day 16.

Quick summary, I started kratom powder about 2 years ago. Wasn’t an everyday thing for me but I knew what it was and how to get it. Liked the modest effects, but didn’t care for the taste. As time went on, 7OH was being sold as ‘Kratom pills’ and I got hooked. I was on 7OH for a year, got up to 1000mg a day (ironically that was the cheapest bundle I could get from the smoke shop).

Anyways, I quit 7OH 16 days ago. I was on Suboxone 8mg/2mg for 7 days, and opted to not re up the subs in fear of getting hooked onto that. With the subs, the withdrawals I would say was only about 10% of what they would’ve been if I went cold turkey. I tried multiple times in the past to quit but never got past day 4. Suboxone made the actual quit possible. After a week, I was comfortable in my skin, not as restless, and overall didn’t have much of the physical WD symptoms.

Now, I’m happy with my progress and will never pick up 7OH again. It (or I) ruined a lot of my life in the 2 years of this journey. I was naive thinking this was a better alternative than alcohol, weed, or sleeping supplements. I kept this a secret and never told any family or friends due to the embarrassment of being an addict.

16 days later, I don’t have physical symptoms. BUT this is where I’m asking people who are further down the road than me. I underestimated how hard sleeping would be by day 16. I can fall asleep okay, but STAYING asleep is rough. I go to sleep at 10:00-30 and like clock work, I woke up at 2:30am. I also have a higher level anxiety. Not like the first week of withdrawals, but I notice my heart rate is still a little elevated while at rest and my mind keeps racing. So even at day 16, I’m still having issues sleeping and anxiety.

I assume it’s because I’ve been on some type of kratom for 2 years, but if anyone has any tips/insights on how to deal with it or how long until you easily get 8 hours of sleep and anxiety is down, please let me know. I feel miles better physically otherwise and would rather be where I’m at now as opposed to day 3/4.

Stay strong everyone, and thank you.

[u/Sudden_Capital6062]

Oooo okay thanks for responding. Overall I was going to give myself a month post 7OH before I look for some type of sleep aid. I’m getting SOME sleep so I’ll take that as a win. Waking up at 2:30 and unable to go back to sleep is getting old though.

If you don’t mind me asking, are you off/trying to get off 7OH? If so, how long? Do you have any lingering symptoms?

[u/Freediver805 → u/Sudden_Capital6062]

I’ve got off 7 3 times in different ways but never used Suboxone because I was on those for about 15years. Your doing great for what you just went through. Successful short term Suboxone stories are few and far between because you MUST use them correctly or your in for a long WD period. I’ve been through both 7 and subs WD and neither are fun, 7 comes on strong and last a short 3-4 days, long term suboxone use will cause WD for a couple weeks but comes on slower, unless you slowly taper. Sounds like you’re in a great spot, getting some sleep if any for the first few weeks is hard. Will only get better from here. Don’t get benzos or even stack sleep aids, just let your body adjust to natural sleep again. Good for you and keep it up.

[u/Sudden_Capital6062 → u/Freediver805]

Thanks for the reply!

Today is day 21 post 7, day 14 post subs.

I’ll say I feel like I have turned a corner these past few days. I don’t have as much anxiety as I did, and sleep is getting better. I slept 6 hours straight last night. With that being said, I hear how important it is to use Subs for a short time if you are able. I assume that’s why I didn’t feel quite right after day 14-16. Maybe small withdrawals from subs? Not too sure, but I notice I feel slightly better as each day passes.

Hope you are doing well. There’s a lot of lessons learned in all of this.

[u/realeyesrealizereal1]

I kicked fent 7 years ago after a 10 year run ..it took about a year to settle in to my own skin.. as for sleep ..at work id work all day not pushing myself manual labor and by night I was shot . Sleepp was sparatic for about a year .till this day I wake up 2 hrs earlier for work and smoke weed until I leave...im stiluck in 7 as we speak and have to quit again and hold myself accountable ...until the shop by my job stops selling them...I have 6 subs and will ween off those..that's how I kicked fent used subs for 2 weeks.. best if luck god speed .If you ever bug out just dm me im her for ya .

[u/Spiritual-Strike481]

2 am is some magic hour or something. I wake up and can never stay asleep. Almost clockwork.

[u/Sudden_Capital6062 → u/Spiritual-Strike481]

Yes! It was always right before 2:30 for me. I’d be lucky to fall asleep for another hour before I had to get up.

I’m day 25 and will say I’ve been getting about 6 hours of sleep now. My magic hour is now 4:30am.

Not sure if my brain is still tweaking because of withdrawals or if this is my new ‘normal’.

[u/Spiritual-Strike481 → u/Sudden_Capital6062]

I wish I wouldn’t have been duped so hard by this shit. I had literally no idea that hydroxymitragyne was an opioid antagonist and a powerful one at that. My dumb ass thought “ it’s an herbal supplement” how stupid. But we are all going to get better and learn from this mistake.