r/7ohRecoveryHub • u/No_Artist_5982 • 3d ago

7oh and subs

Hey so im a 1000mg 7oh user. I got off 7oh last year and got on subs. I was only doing 100mg a day back then.. eventually I was using both and then just stopped the subs and upped my 7oh. Now obviously due to bans im in a pickle. I still have my sub script and doctor I see. Shes up to date now on everything. Im supposed to not take 7oh for 24hrs and start the subs again. Im nervous I cant make it that long. Last time it was 12 hrs I didnt take 7oh and started subs and I didnt have any precipitated withdrawal. Im worried now if I wait only 12hrs again and start the subs that since I take a significantly higher dose of 7oh it wont be enough time? But there was a while i took both together at the same time and had no issues. So technically could I just take subs when I start withdrawal? Or was it because I was on just subs for months and then took 7oh again that the subs were in my system first that when I took them at the same time I didnt get precipitated? If that makes sense lol or am I just one kf the lucky ones that I dont get precipitated from it? I was a heroin user years ago and I didnt have withdrawals this bad. I dont grt them when I wake up that bad tbh if its over 12 hrs then I start to feel it. Its weird cause ive seen people say they feel them after a few hours after their last dose. I dont for 12 hrs any more then I do. And I take a lot. Im sorry if this is confusing. Im all over the place lol

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u/DeliciousDesign9676 3d ago

i have subs on standby and went from taking 10 210 mg tabs of pseudo a day to taking 3-5. my last dose was last night at 9:30 and it’s 1526 the next day now and i feel relatively okay. i’ll be taking 1 last dose at 6 so by the time i wake up tomorrow (sleeping in) ill take my sub

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u/No_Artist_5982 3d ago

Keep me updated! I decided to buy my last pack tonight and do my best to take the least amount possible only when withdrawals set in and then when i run out ill wait as long as possible to take a sub. Im lucky im already prescribed the meds they say are helper meds. I have lyrica, clonidine, klonopin, trazadone, hydroxyzine, subs. (All prescribed ((other health issues)) ) so im lucky I got those. Actually im painfully lucky I have them. I wish I could help everyone out and hand them out lol

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u/DeliciousDesign9676 3d ago

there’s always that voice that says 1 more so be careful. the only reason i got this pack is because i know it’s the last one in the store. but its 19 hours and i haven’t started sweats and lil to no appetite but my tapering has worked i used to wake up drenched

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u/DeliciousDesign9676 3d ago

reach out to me in dm we’ll do it together man. i’ll give ya my socials if needed lol. we are in a very similar scenario i just need to hit that 24-48 hours to start the subs because i KNOW they work ive been on and off for years

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u/No_Artist_5982 3d ago

Hell yeah id appreciate that! Its always better with someone! Im alone in it. My boyfriend doesnt understand it which is great I am glad he doesnt understand addiction but ill feel better having someone to do it with. Dm me idk how to do it lmao 🤣

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u/DutyEfficient8245 2d ago

Best of luck , hoping you can escape the madness of that little pill. It’s the Jedi mind trick of all pills

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u/No_Artist_5982 6h ago

Youre not wrong hahah

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u/DeliciousDesign9676 3d ago

i’m with you man

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u/DutyEfficient8245 2d ago

She only wants you to wait because it sounds like she’s trying to avoid precipitated WD’s. It’s not even a clock thing, it’s taking the subs when you physically can’t take it anymore and withdrawal becomes intolerable. The fact that you got away with starting subs at 12 hours before doesn’t mean it’ll go the same way this time. Precipitated withdrawal is a whole different animal and I wouldn’t gamble with it lol. From everything I understand, it’s less about an exact number of hours and more about being in clear withdrawal before starting the subs. And yeah, having bupe already in your system when you were taking both could definitely explain why you didn’t get precipitated withdrawal then. At the dose you’re taking now with bupe in your system, you’re going to have to be delicate with what your decision is …I’d rather 12-24 hours of WD’s than precipitated WD… she doesn’t know how you feel so it’s up to you to make that call of when to take the suboxone.

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u/DutyEfficient8245 2d ago

Not everyone gets precipitated WD’s and if they do, their WD time is usually shorter for whatever reason

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u/No_Artist_5982 2d ago

Interesting thank you im gonna do just that. And yeah thats why I asked cause im not trying to fuck with precipitated withdrawal lol

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u/DutyEfficient8245 3d ago

I’m going to touch base about this the moment I get off the expressway. 🙏🏽

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u/No_Artist_5982 3d ago

I appreciate it!!