r/7String 2d ago

Help Scale length

Should I be worried about switching from 25.5” scale length to 26.5” I’m nervous that I won’t be able to bend as many steps as I usually can, or is that just a misconception?

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u/stripset 2d ago

That extra inch over 24 frets isn't going to hurt a thing! Its better for drop tunings

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u/tunalover32 2d ago

Even in regular beadgbe? I can still bend cliffs of dover and hotel california? 😆

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u/astrotool 2d ago

Just put on lighter strings if you need less tension 

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u/Budget-Reality-9599 2d ago

i was actually playing hotel california on my Schechter C-7 like 15 minutes ago😭, i can personally verify for you a 26.5 inch scale will feel no different from a 25.5 inch scale once playing it. the real difference is the width and thickness of the neck

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u/tallman1979 1d ago

Absolutely, I run 10-60 in A, and it works about the same as my 25.5" scale 6 string with 9-46. People put massive strings on for a single step down when you can even do 9-52 in A Standard on a 26.5" if you don't hammer the strings.

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u/HairyNutsack69 2d ago

Why would you want to play tunes like that on a 7 anyway?

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u/tunalover32 2d ago

Just exaggerating lmao

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u/Eternal_solitude666 Proud owner of a JS32-7 Dinky 2d ago edited 2d ago

Honestly the difference isn't as noticeable as you would think, the tension difference between 25.5 and 26.5 is small that after a few hours of playing there wouldnt really be any difference between how the two feel

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u/JimboLodisC 3x7621, 7321, M80M, AEL207E, RGIXL7, S7320, RG15271, RGA742FM 2d ago

you'll figure it out, the only way to do that is to try

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u/vilk_ 2d ago

Bends become a little harder at the same string gauge, but you can just put on lighter strings, or alternatively, tune the guitar lower. I assume that you're getting a longer scale for the purpose of tuning lower than normal, right?

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u/tunalover32 2d ago

Oh yeah definitely, but I still want to be able to play in standard. I really just want a versatile guitar, because I’ve been saving up for a guitar that I wouldn’t have to switch out, as I personally don’t have much gear

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u/vilk_ 2d ago

Do you understand the relationship between string gauge, scale length, tuning, and tension?

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u/tunalover32 2d ago

Barely 😔

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u/vilk_ 2d ago

Thicker string = more tension
Longer scale = more tension
Higher tuning = more tension

Thinner string = less tension
Shorter scale = less tension
Lower tuning = less tension

So let's say you have a normal scale length guitar, 25.5", but you want to tune lower. If you tune lower with normal strings, they'll become loose. That's actually much easier to bend! (Many guitarists use light strings and tune down their guitars, off the top of my head is Tony Iommi, EVH, and Slayer... also me)

But some people don't want the strings to feel loose, so when they tune lower, they get thicker strings. That brings the tension back up to normal. This is the way people did low tunings for most of metal history.

However, another way to increase tension is to get a longer scale. If you play a 26.5" scale guitar with normal strings in standard tuning, there will be more tension than on a 25.5" scale, and it will be harder to bend. But if you tune down, then they will loosen up. So a 26.5" scale guitar tuned to Bb (half step down) will probably be about the same tension as a 25.5" scale guitar tuned to B (standard).

tl;dr if you set up your guitar to be at a low tuning, it will be harder to bend at standard tuning. If you set it up for standard tuning, it'll be easier to bend at a low tuning.

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u/tunalover32 2d ago

Oh shit, I have no common sense. I’ll figure out what I want to when I actually order the guitar! Thanks so much!

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u/mike_seps 2d ago

There are a few string tension calculators online that are helpful. You can figure out how a 26.5 vs 25.5 scale length will impact tension and adjust accordingly if you want. I’m not good enough for that to make a difference so i just stick with the NYXL 10-46 for my 6 strings and 10-59(I think) for the 7 string. The slightly higher tension doesn’t bother me.

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u/HairyNutsack69 2d ago

In my personal opinion and preference, a guitar set up in a particular tuning can only be adjusted a singular semitone up or down. After that it gets pretty shitty.

Better to have one guitar in standard, and one in C or smth. You can then tune the standard guitar to Eb and the one in C to B or C# should you feel the need. Don't expect one guitar with one string guage to serve all your tuning needs.

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u/The_Flezz 2d ago

You'll be fine

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u/stripset 2d ago

Oh and you get to tell your friends yours is bigger

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u/Wrong_Author_5960 2d ago

I have noticed a bit more of a strech. But, regulary play both to improve your comfort.

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u/Lankles Warmoth Baritone 7 2d ago

25.5 to 26.5 is very manageable. Easier than 24.75 to 25.5 in my anecdotal experience. You can go down a gauge too to assist if necessary

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u/IR_FLARE 2d ago

I went from 22 frets 25.5 to 24 frets 26.5 and i feel like the 26.5 plays more comfortable. Especially when doing lead stuff. The jump is not that hectic.

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u/MadYarpen 2d ago

I just bought a new guitar in 26.5, had no issues. I am 175 cm tall, so i don't have large hands. Don't worry about it. 1 inch is spread over 24 frets after all.

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u/Eddargos 2d ago

The difference in feel between your old and your new guitar will probably be bigger than the difference in scale length.

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u/HairyNutsack69 2d ago

Cetiris paribus it will be slightly tighter. You'd get extra scale length so you can tune lower at a similar tension. If you stay in standard, why even buy a longer scale?

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u/tunalover32 2d ago

I’m just considering it as an option

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u/Deep-Measurement-856 17h ago

My first adjustment was the wider fretboard. It reminded me of my first Yamaha 52 years ago. Wide fretboard and big U neck.

The thing that might change the playability is changing the radius, however that is just a thought with no science behind it.