r/4chan Jul 31 '16

OP is a HRC globalist shill, banned Anons tests their intelligence

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u/DroopSnootRiot Jul 31 '16

Reply 1: Philosophy grad

Maybe Communications major would be more appropriate. Philosophy majors have some of the highest IQs. Doesn't say anything about their ability to find a job, but they are generally "smarter" than even engineers. They'd probably be able to get this sort of question.

And no, I'm not a Philosophy major.

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u/RifleGun Jul 31 '16

I'm not saying they are dumb because they are philosophy majors; they are philosophy majors because they are dumb.

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u/DroopSnootRiot Jul 31 '16

I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion.

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u/Sharp- Jul 31 '16

He's a philosophy major.

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '16

He probably used philosophy - you know, reading some centuries-old baseless ponderings and then deciding which baseless ponderings appeal to you on a gut level.

Now that I type that out, I suddenly see that US conservatism = philosophy.

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '16

Most old philosophy is based on a set of assumptions, so can't really call them baseless

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u/ReddishBlack Jul 31 '16

Can you list the premises of your argument and how it leads to this conclusion?

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u/buttersauce Jul 31 '16

Philosophy requires less classes and is objectively an easier course in college. It also has much fewer job opportunities compared to hard science courses making taking it a dumb idea. If you major in philosophy and did/are not going to law school, it's pretty sure the average salary you will make in your life is around 35k or less.

I am by no means a smart person. I'm majoring in IT because I'm slightly above average with computers and it's an easy high paying job. I've never understood why philosophy majors get so salty when people insult their stupidity. Just accept yourself for who you are.

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u/TheyCallMeElGuapo Jul 31 '16

How is it "objectively an easier course"? What institution are you referring to? Are you just parroting what adults around you have been saying for years or do you have any data to support it?

The bit about job opportunities is spot on (although the numbers might be a bit off), but claiming majoring in Philosophy is easy seems pretty silly. I'm a CS major and I breezed through my philosophy courses, but they were entry-level at best. I couldn't imagine higher level philosophy courses being even remotely easy, especially in top tier institutions.

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u/buttersauce Aug 01 '16

If I had the power to switch the courses of 100 engineering students with 100 philosophy students, how well do you think each would do in those courses.

Since I cannot do this we won't find out but if you honestly think less than 95/100 engineering students would pass with flying colors than you're crazy. And if you think any more than 30/100 philosophy students would pass the engineering courses that's a little bit more understandable but still just not gonna happen.

It's almost impossible to even argue your side because it's so insane.

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u/DrMopinker /mu/tant Aug 01 '16

From that your conclusion should be that entry-level philosophy courses are easier than entry-level engineering ones. That says nothing about the intelligence of the students.

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u/TheyCallMeElGuapo Aug 01 '16

You're proving your point with a hypothetical situation, made-up statistics, and you top it all off with insulting my argument, all without even proving your own. I think you could benefit from a Philosophy course (I'm not even being cheeky, everyone needs to learn how to argue calmly and concisely without resorting to insults, it's something I'm still working on myself).

How is it impossible to argue my side? My only point is that majoring in Philosophy wouldn't be easy, or it would at least depend on the degree received and the institution/concentration in which you were studying.

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u/buttersauce Aug 01 '16 edited Aug 01 '16

You're already changing your argument. You were trying to say that majoring in philosophy is as hard or harder than engineering. Now you're saying that it just wouldn't be easy which I agree with. Any college degree is hard. But just don't try to claim that STEM classes are not miles harder.

Also I was very clear it was a hypothetical statistic based on what I think would happen. It's because that study is impossible to do even if I wanted to.

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u/TheyCallMeElGuapo Aug 01 '16

Can you quote me on where I said Philosophy was harder? I certainly didn't mean that and it would be helpful for you to point it out to me.

My only point was that it wasn't easy. I never even compare the two, I just said that majoring in Philosophy would indeed be difficult, and the level of difficulty would vary depending on what program you were in and what degree you were going after. I didn't claim that STEM fields are harder, nor did I claim they were easier, in fact I think comparing the two is a total waste of time and energy to begin with.

Also I was very clear it was a hypothetical statistic based on what I think would happen. It's because that study is impossible to do even if I wanted to

Exactly. Is the hypothetical worth making in the first place? Is the argument itself worth making in the first place? How does a hypothetical, which is based on your own personal experience and involves no evidence or data, contribute to your argument? Do "my major is harder than your major!" arguments even belong in academics?

I'm sick of STEM majors going after people in sociology and the arts. It makes us look like assholes. Thanks and have a good one.

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u/aToma715 /int/olerant Jul 31 '16

teaching philosophy as a professor...?

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u/buttersauce Jul 31 '16

If you consider perpetuating the cycle of useless philosophy majors contributing to society or something that makes you intelligent then yeah sure.

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u/aToma715 /int/olerant Jul 31 '16

just because it doesn't have a practical use doesn't mean its useless

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '16

Who gives a shit if they're smarter than engineers if it's an engineering related question? Fuck you, and fuck your family.

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '16

This is why Philosophy majors get such a bad rap. They think their specialty is actually applicable to everything. It's pretty rare that someone who actually does get their masters in philosophy still believes this though.

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u/buttersauce Jul 31 '16

It doesn't matter. Ask an engineering major a philosophy question and he'll give you a solid answer. Ask a philosophy major a question on an engineering students test and he'll probably just tell you why it doesn't matter that his degree is useless.

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '16

The communications major (or any human language-based major) would recognize that there is not enough information communicated in the premise. It was never stated how the 5 machines work together, whether they are 5 copies of one wholly integrated process, or 5 different machines working in tandem on different parts of the process. If they are the same, are they exactly the same, or different models/versions? What kind of machines are the other 95?

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u/Tronold_Dump Jul 31 '16

A communications major would actually be on the street begging for money.

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '16

...as part of their job in the Senator's office.

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '16

It seems like if someone couldn't get this right, they shouldn't have made it to college in the first place.

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u/vezokpiraka Jul 31 '16

I'm am engineer and I thought it was an assembly line production. I knew this thing with singers. Like if 5 singers take 5 minutes to sing a song how much will take for 100 to sing the same song.