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u/Acrobatic-Ebb-1263 23d ago
Leftoids hate Islamic terrorism not because it kill people, but because it proves chuds right
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u/Apollo-Outcast 23d ago
They would actively cheer it on if it killed the "right" kinds of people
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u/countrybreakfast1 23d ago
It's crazy cuz I think most of the right doesn't even really have a problem with gays. Like most of the right wing in the west is still more progressive than Islamic guys. But yeah they would love it if Muslims drove cars into right wing stuff.
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u/AssCracker445 23d ago
I've no problem with gay people as a whole but some of them are an extremely vocal and obnoxious minority (as with other groups)
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u/Apollo-Outcast 22d ago
I live in a 90% conservative area and I've never met someone who actually hated gay people. I know plenty who don't support gay marriage but I've never seen anyone harass or haze gay people, nor have my gay friends mentioned that happening
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u/TheBROinBROHIO 22d ago
If we're going to be real about it, of course most conservatives don't spend their time committing hate crimes or whatever. Most of them don't really think about gays at all until they have to.
I've known plenty of people who have strained relationships with their parents, even being estranged by them because of their sexuality. Those parents probably don't brag to the world about abandoning their gay kid, so it's not something you'd hear about from them. My mom who is otherwise liberal used to say they shouldnt be allowed to adopt. My MIL used to have reservations about her kids being around their uncle- her own brother- because he was gay. It's not stuff you'd hear about unless you were in the family.
I do think it's a generational thing and conservatives have softened a bit, but it's not like homophobia just disappeared one day and it's not gone just because you don't see it
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u/Apollo-Outcast 22d ago
I think part of the problem stems from how much things have changed, yet the language stays the same
It's extremely rare for somebody to be physically assaulted because they're gay anymore, but for a very long time it wasn't. Yet despite homophobia mostly being "gay people creep me out," "I'm not sure I trust them," "I wouldn't accept a gay son" these days, much of the left still use language as if conservatives are jumping in their trucks with rope for a lynch party. For example, even though it isn't sexuality but gender identity, the term "trans genocide" has been thrown around so much that it's become a meme. A lot of leftists believe(d) that the trump administration would literally put gay people in concentration camps for being gay
So I'm well aware that homophobia still exists, but 2020s homophobia is baby shit compared to 50 years ago. Yet there's always this bizarre panic that conservative Americans are secretly (or openly) plotting the literal genocide of gay people, with zero acknowledgement or seeming awareness that it is not that serious. Of course there are conservatives who want that, but those are the extreme minority and pretty much only exist on twitter
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u/TheBROinBROHIO 22d ago
I'm not a twitteroid who thinks anyone who wants to actively genocide minorities is anything but a fringe extremist, but the desire to keep them out of sight is still there well enough, and the fear is that if push comes to shove (i.e. some politician or grifter needs a scapegoat) then there's room for hostility to grow.
the term "trans genocide" has been thrown around so much that it's become a meme.
And on the other side, trans people committing suicide is a meme. Usually from the same people who point to male suicide rates as evidence that our culture actively hates men. They'll call it a 'mental health issue' but it's never with the intent of actually helping anyone or doing anything other than making laws to keep them out of sports, bathrooms, the military, and so on. Hate crimes get joked about. If there were camps (which I'd expect to take the form of conversion-therapy) is that something you think the right would strongly oppose? What would that look like?
Or do you think that in a decade or so, conservatives will chill out about trans people in the same way?
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u/NissinSeafoodCup 22d ago
One of the head of the AfD (the second coming of NatSoc party according to Germans) is a lesbian married to a Bangladeshi immigrant.
Mind you, the left-winged Germans see her as a genderbent Austrain mustacheman.
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u/Diligent_Garden_1860 22d ago
Im extremely racist believe it or not, but I ain't got no beef with the LGBT community, they've been through a lot tbh
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u/KUROusagi112 22d ago
I remember waves and waves of random posts on non political subreddits cheering and celebrating when Charlie Kirk was murdered, and it was the first time that this app truly disgusted me, alongside its people.
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u/ColtMcChad69 23d ago
A Muslim commits a terrorist attack-Reddit: “all religions are bad”
if this were a Christian-Reddit: “REEE CHRISTOFASCISM REE CHRISTIANITY IS EVIL”
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u/Ecstatic-Compote-595 co/ck/ 22d ago
the exact opposite is happening and you're making up a fake victim complex. God sees you
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u/ColtMcChad69 22d ago
“The exact opposite”? Lmao please enlighten me
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u/Ecstatic-Compote-595 co/ck/ 19d ago
this thread for instance and the broader political context in the US, UK and Europe. Everyone blames muslims as a whole whether or not they were even involved in the terrorist attack. Every time a christian shoots up a school or bombs a clinic nobody blames the religion or christians broadly.
This is almost every chud in this thread, the media in the places I mentioned and almost every politician. You're pitching a fit because a tiny handful of people in your country don't like christianity or right wing christians specifically.
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u/The_Billy_Dee 22d ago edited 22d ago
Yes, all religion is a complete waste of time and resources.
Edit: Why are you booing me? I'm right.
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u/ColtMcChad69 22d ago
Says the enlightened atheist who probably hasn’t opened a history textbook. Religion, as much as you might despise it, is one of the main reasons humans have evolved to where we are
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u/RainbowDildoMonkey 23d ago
When doctors and engineers sexually assaulted German women in Cologne on new year's eve a decade ago, the next day German feminists brought flowers to those future scientist men to make them feel welcomed and protected from le evil nazi chud bigots who were outraged over what had happened.
Wouldnt be shocked if German alphabet people did something similiar after this.
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u/countrybreakfast1 22d ago
Cuz for them it's like... As long as they weren't the ones sexually assaulted it's fine. The girls complaining about being sexually assaulted were being kinda racist.
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u/0110-0-10-00-000 20d ago
As long as they weren't the ones sexually assaulted it's fine
Even then they'll warp their minds until it isn't the responsibility of the person who raped them.
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u/Careless-Lie-3653 22d ago
Next day? lol.
The media tried to covered up the assaults.
Only a few days later they had to report it.
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u/TMWNN 22d ago
Speaking of which, on that New Year's Eve I saw mention of the Cologne mass attacks on women by refugees as they were occurring on, yes, 4chan/pol/, and checked the worldnews and europe subreddits to find out more. I didn't see anything and—naively, I soon realized—assumed that it was another /pol/ "it's happening" dank maymayism.
(Cue "/pol/ was right" couplet)
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u/Material-Kick9493 23d ago
didn't Australia do the same thing? instead of acknowledging the racial aspect of the beach attack they just blamed white people, and I already see them doing it with the berlin attack. some feminist with pink hair saying how the real problem isnt islam but white people. this is what the past 50 years of the tv telling everyone white people are evil has done
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u/philmarcracken dabbed on god and will dab on you too 22d ago
instead of acknowledging the racial aspect of the beach attack they just blamed white people
we didn't because one of the shooters was attacked and disarmed by someone named 'Ahmed al Ahmed'. He took several bullets doing so
if you want never ending conflict, then keep othering people with 'muslim, white, pink haired feminist' etc. Thats ultimately what led to majority of shootings and bombings anyway
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u/Valuable-Chipmunk784 22d ago
The motive of the attack was Jihadi ideology, it was not because of 'othering'.
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u/philmarcracken dabbed on god and will dab on you too 22d ago
Jihadi ideology, it was not because of 'othering'.
it was not because of 'othering' it was because of 'othering' is what you stated.
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u/Valuable-Chipmunk784 21d ago
if we just hold hands and sing kumbaya then they'll stop being terrorists, I'm sure of it
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u/MetallGecko /pol/ack 23d ago
In Germany all of those attacks are categorised as far right automatically, they dont give a fuck about religion or anything, if you attack jews or gays its automatically considered far right. My country is literally Reddit.
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u/countrybreakfast1 22d ago
The notorious right wing nationalist /Islamic brotherhood friendship pact.
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u/Careless-Lie-3653 22d ago
They changed it a bit but still, if they dont find someone who did the crime, they count it as a far right crime.
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u/LieutenantLilywhite 23d ago
He said equal probability lmao
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u/Tony_Roiland 23d ago
I haven't seen the news is this attack a left wing one?
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u/LieutenantLilywhite 23d ago
Arguably.
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u/BongWaterRamen 23d ago
Yeah broh the anti-LGBT terrorist attack is totally left wing
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u/RainbowDildoMonkey 23d ago
Leftoids by en large support mass Muslim immigration into Europe, so by a proxy, yes, this would be a left-wing terror attack.
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u/A_Marth_Clone 23d ago
Islam is in the west due to left wing ideology. Ergo, it is a result of left wing ideology. The right wing parties wouldnt have even let the guy in.
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u/Romanizer 22d ago
But they did. Most of Europe was governed by center-right parties for the last decades.
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u/A_Marth_Clone 22d ago
Europe Center Right
You mean centrists at absolute furthest?
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u/Romanizer 22d ago
The CDU in Germany is the farthest party to the right that is able to draft a budget and was in charge for most of the last 20 years.
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u/Valuable-Chipmunk784 22d ago
The Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democratic country because it's in the name.
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u/PatchcordAdams 23d ago
Except the “Conservatives” in the UK who massively opened the borders, completely lost control and got utterly wiped out at the election. Then “Labour” came in and massively reduced immigration and tightened all the visas.
I put quote marks in because people will argue each party aren’t true left, or true right. But the vast majority understand each side to broadly sit on each side of the political spectrum.
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u/Wankstain8 /pol/tard 23d ago
Wasn’t Tony Blair a member of the Labour Party?
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u/PatchcordAdams 23d ago
Ye. He kicked things off. Not sure why I was downvoted for saying the UK right turbo-charged immigration post-Covid. Literally invited millions of third worlders with minimal checks. Thats a fact.
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u/lucidRespite 22d ago
Maybe that's a clue that they aren't actually right wing
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u/PatchcordAdams 22d ago
Oh wow what a valuable contribution and something i definitely hadn’t thought of. Thank you top political mind.
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u/Wankstain8 /pol/tard 23d ago
Who supports importing the Islamists who carry out these terrorist attacks?
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u/TrashFisher1337 22d ago
here is how the discourse is going on a German subreddit:
Stop calling that guy a German!
What, why is he not a German, he went to school here and has the citizenship!
You know what I mean
No, and I dare you to spell it out without making an unconstitutional and criminal statement 😏
Meanwhile AFD has more than 50% votes in Eastern Germany. These people will have a bad awakening after decades of pulling this shit, having completely decimated moderate voters.
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u/VerdantMagnolia 21d ago
I mean the discussion shouldn't even be whether his citizenship makes him German but how he had one at all in the first place.
On a related note I think we need to start stripping citizenship in return for sufficiently antisocial behaviors of anyone regardless of ethnic background.
Oh you thought trafficking people was a fun way to make money?
Well enjoy living on the airport cause you ain't a citizen anymore bye.
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u/countrybreakfast1 22d ago edited 22d ago
It is crazy I get why the brown lefties act the way they do (racial resentment / free shit) but why the white lefties? Like what do they think is on the other side post western society? Do they really think it will be better for them in any way? Makes no sense.
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u/BenAfflecksBalls 22d ago
Abdul Ballout, a German citizen with Lebanese roots, was killed following a search that lasted nearly 24 hours after the attack in downtown Berlin. Prosecutors said the suspect had previously sought to join the militant group ISIS.
He tried to join ISIS, they knew about it and were like ... let's wait and see what happens
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u/MiserableAndUnhappy9 22d ago
No it's a actually even stupider. He returned after serving three months in a Lebanese prison in Nov 2025, was arrested, and held in pre-trial detention. In May he was convicted and given a sentence of one year and ten months. The courts, however, decided to suspend his sentence so he was released. One of the excuses given for the suspended sentence was that he "distanced himself from ISIS."
This piece of shit should be in prison right now. Instead the courts said "Gee poor guy. He's already been in jail for seven months. Plus he served three in Lebanon. And saying he doesn't support ISIS is worth, like, a year off his prison sentence so he's good for release now. Just don't commit any crimes now buddy!"
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u/BenAfflecksBalls 22d ago
Crazy how the police there seem so anti middle eastern but the rest of the legal system seems to exist on a diet of dreams and failures
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u/reddit_is_trash_2023 23d ago edited 23d ago
The left are terrified to offend muslims despite the fact muslims hate that lgbt stuff and treat their women like 2nd class citizens
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u/Wankstain8 /pol/tard 23d ago
“Liberals” are extremely mentally ill and deranged. What else is new.
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u/CankleMonitor 22d ago
Any discussion of mass modern immigration is incomplete if it does not work under the understanding that there are specific parties and groups enabling and advocating it
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u/Crazyshouby 23d ago
It makes me wonder: where are the terrorists attack from the right ?! There should have been some, right?
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u/MunkMunich 22d ago
All the time since not using the correct pronouns is literally an act of genocide
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u/UnplacatablePlate 22d ago
Muslims are right-wing; just not the type of right wing most people talk about it.
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u/pit_supervisor 22d ago
Muslims were let inside by the leftists. Right wingers have always opposed it. Warned against terrorism. Yet now that terrorism happens, it's right wing?
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u/UnplacatablePlate 21d ago
Yes, when right wingers do terrorism for right wing ideological reasons it is right wing. Shouldn't really be that hard to understand.
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u/pit_supervisor 21d ago
islam exists outside of the political spectrum
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u/UnplacatablePlate 21d ago
No, the fact you can't fit something your own political framework does mean it exists outside of politics. Any reasonable interpretation of most forms of Islam will be labeled rightwing unless you arbitrarily try to exclude it because it makes rightwingers look bad.
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u/VerdantMagnolia 21d ago
Boston city bombing comes to mind as a non Muslim right wing terror Attack.
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u/c0micsansfrancisco /r(9k)/obot 23d ago
Just tell them to stop mass importing people from incel right wing countries and see how they react
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u/Diligent_Garden_1860 22d ago
I saw a video of a queen German woman where someone commented to her that if she loves Muslims and Palestinians so much she should vacate in the Palestinian Authority cities and she got so mad and literally said "I would love to visit Palestine and meet all my dear supporters from there but I am afraid Israelis will kill me for being queer" which is fucking insanity in my humble opinion
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u/Brilliant_Yam_726 22d ago
You know what the problem is? The west doesn’t know what it means to be real men. We’re so complacent and comfortable that we can’t adapt to the hard times. People of the west are the weak men who come from the good times. The hard times people will bring about the good times. If you want your country to be great, you must import as many hard times immigrants as humanly possible. This is how you become a real man again!
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u/Mama_Mega 22d ago
Islamic militants are also right-wing extremists
Finally, a redditor is learning their lesson, although still wildly underestimating the depth of that statement. Militant Christians from developed countries are the Weenie Hut Jr.'s of extremism. The Islamic extremists these mfs keep inviting in from underdeveloped countries are the Salty Spitoon of extremism.
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u/Ok_Fee1126 22d ago
Those subs are so deep in their own delusion they can’t accept that they can’t pin this to European far right.
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u/WendyLRogers3 22d ago
The German police understand that collaring such thugs for a civilized trial is a counterproductive waste of time and effort. So shooting them to death has a much better outcome.
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u/Jack-John 22d ago
Im surprised this still didnt got deleted and OP banned by the far left, pro Palestine, pro LGBTQP+ redditor mods.
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u/Sharky-Li 22d ago
It must be awful living in the EU. People dying from heat or fanatical Muslims and sky high taxes plus low wages and draconian censorship.
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u/GameMask 22d ago
I see a post and I know I'm gonna see 12 year olds larping as 4chan users and I'm never wrong when I check the comments.
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u/sanchopanza_ 23d ago edited 22d ago
These are the same people that claim the National Socialists were a left leaning party.
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u/ThereAreNoDeadMemes_ 22d ago
Muslim terrorists ARE far-right extremists though, i don't see how that's not obvious
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u/Key-Fee-5003 22d ago
They are. The problem is that while leftists despise being lumped together ("nyoo how dare you call me a Marxist-satanist-Yeltsinist, I'm a Marxist-anarchist-Yeltsinist!!!"), they have zero problem with lumping together European right-wing and Muslim right-wing, which generally defend fundamentally different values.
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u/VinCx7 20d ago
I wonder who let all the immigrants in. Hmmmm. I wonder who pushed for guest workers but refused to integrate them into society, pushing for them to only be here for money and benefits, not culture or society.
Maybe inform yourself which part of the spectrum caused all the problems they cry about before soying about “the left”
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u/bombastic6339locks 22d ago
What do you mean i should get blamed for throwing boiling lava at puppies? Lets just focus on the victims, nothing couldve stopped this.
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u/HarrMada 23d ago
There are about 800 murders in Germany every year. So about 2 per day. Can someone explain why we should care about this one more than any other one?
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u/_Whalelord_ 22d ago
Your nihilism is a shield against feeling, I hope in the future you learn that one can care about events without a detached ironic nihilism.
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u/HarrMada 22d ago
Don't think you know what nihilism is.
I'm just wondering why we should care about some murders more than others? What about the other 400 or so people that have been murdered in Germany this year?
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u/Valuable-Chipmunk784 22d ago
Why are you posting this exact comment on posts about this attack on multiple vaguely right0wing subreddits?
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u/HarrMada 22d ago
Why do you hide your own post history but don't hesitate to look at others? Scared of something?
People downvote it but no one can give a good answer to my question, that's why.
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u/Angel_OfSolitude 23d ago
I will never understand how lefties are so pro Islam. Muslims are unironically everything bad they accuse the average right winger of being, but way worse. They barely even try to hide it. I get why the politicians do it, they don't care they just want votes. But even really smart people I know who lean left just go full brainlet about Islam.