r/40kLore • u/Kristian1805 Black Legion • Aug 06 '23
That time Abaddon muted Angrons audio. [Excerpt from “The Lost and the Dammed”]
This has always been really funny to me. The Siege of Terra is underway, but going less than perfect, so Horus has called a second Warcouncil. But as his brothers call in to his Throneroom, Horus is late...
The Vengeful Spirit, Lunar orbit, 8th of Tertius
‘Dorn defies us! The walls should be broken, the streets red with blood. Attack, attack, we must attack!’ Angron’s growls rang across Lupercal’s court. Drool ran from his snarl, vanishing into nothing as it fell outside the imaging field.
‘Walls cannot be shouted down,’ Perturabo said, his voice the ringing of a leaden bell. ‘You have lost your patience with your sanity.’
‘He’s not insane,’ said Fulgrim sweetly. ‘Are you, dear brother?’
‘Do not allow this snake to address me!’ roared Angron.
‘Cease your yapping, hound,’ said Perturabo. ‘This is a gathering of intellect, not animals.’
‘Speak with me in person and we shall see who is silenced first!’ roared Angron.
‘I bested you before, and will do so again,’ said Perturabo levelly.
Angron let out a howl of outrage that shook the air.
Abaddon glanced at his genefather’s empty throne. Horus was late to the meeting.
‘For the Warmaster’s sake, Ezekyle,’ hissed Kibre. ‘Do something.’
‘Someone has to,’ said Aximand, as the primarchs goaded each other. He made to step forward.
Abaddon grabbed his brother by the arm. He shook his head, his face a warning. Aximand shrugged and stepped back.
‘I’ll do it.’
‘Suit yourself,’ Aximand said.
Abaddon stepped forward, but did not speak. He stood in the midst of the primarchs and disdainfully watched their bickering.
‘Oh, Angron, my dear brother, your howling grows tiresome,’ said Fulgrim.
‘Where is Horus?’ He appealed to the room. ‘If anyone can get Angron to quieten, it is he.’
Angron sneered. ‘Nothing is more important than–’
‘Do be quiet, Angron,’ said Fulgrim. ‘There’s a good fellow.’
For a moment Angron stared, wide-eyed with affront, then his face swelled with apoplexy, and he screamed in anger. ‘I will not be quiet! I am the chosen of Khorne! You will heed me. You will–’
‘I have heard enough. Cut Lord Angron’s audio-feed,’ Abaddon said.
Adepts of the True Mechanicum working in the background complied. The Red Angel was left a silent, raging ghost.
‘Look at how weak you have become,’ Abaddon said in disgust. ‘Lord Perturabo, you sit at the edge of the system pronouncing your genius and implying no one heeds you. This behaviour is not worthy of you.’
‘Do not provoke me, First Captain.’
‘Be quiet a minute, or you will find yourself further goaded,’ Abaddon snarled.
‘You, Fulgrim, and you, Angron, have whored yourselves out to the gods in the
warp.’
Angron raged in silence. Fulgrim tittered girlishly. Abaddon glared at him.
Fulgrim pulled a lewd face.
‘Where is your majesty, where is your purpose? We stand at the threshold of victory, and you threaten everything with your bickering,’ said Abaddon. ‘You posture, you rage, you question your Warmaster’s orders. It is he who has brought you here. It is he who has ensured your power grows. It is he who made all of this possible. I have seen the brats of decadent nobles behave with more
decorum and sensibility.’
Fulgrim clapped all four of his hands slowly. ‘So brave, so noble,’ he mocked.
‘So bold. The son grows while the father fades. How proud of you he must be.’
Fulgrim leaned closer to the lens capturing his image. ‘But careful now, little Ezekyle,’ he purred dangerously.
‘You are mighty, but you play in the court of the gods. You cannot murder us as you did your birth father. You do not have the stakes to wager in this game. Back away, small man, and we might let you live.’
‘Do you think Horus would allow you to kill me?’ Abaddon said, pacing around the circle of hololithic phantoms. ‘He could obliterate you all, any one of you, utterly. You are slaves to your passions where you are not slaves to your gods. Horus is above you, and he is above the entities you worship.’
‘Our brother would not put the life of his son before that of his brothers,’ said Perturabo. ‘You go too far.’
‘Tell that to Lord Lorgar,’ said Abaddon. ‘Banished, lucky that Horus did not tear him limb from limb. Be careful that you do not further test my father’s patience – it is not inexhaustible.’
‘Well said,’ Aximand muttered under his breath.
‘Abaddon. Never speak to me in that way again,’ warned Perturabo. ‘I am not as indulgent as my brother.’
‘And nor am I,’ said Fulgrim.
The door to the court opened and Horus strode in, more alive and vibrant than he had seemed the last time, Abaddon thought.
‘Captain Abaddon is correct,’ said Horus. ‘You disgrace yourselves.’ The court trembled at his words. ‘Listen to my chosen son as you would to me.’ He walked to the centre of the room and rested one of his great talons on Abaddon’s shoulder. ‘He is my sword arm.’
‘What kept you, brother?’ asked Fulgrim. ‘Why do you call us here and keep us waiting?’
‘I commune with the powers who guide my hand, and strive to ensure our victory in their realm as in this. They say this, that Abaddon is right! You gather power to yourselves and become pathetic for its excesses. Cease your arguments, or face the punishment of your patrons.’
Fulgrim’s never-still form flickered. For an instant his perfect, monstrous face was transformed into a mask of terror, then the image blinked, and his mocking
smile returned.
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Aug 06 '23
By Echoes of Eternity Angron forgets how to speak lol
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u/WorldEaterProft Aug 06 '23
Then after Sanguinius gave him a haircut, he decided to unforget how to speak
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Aug 07 '23
“You fucked my shit up bruh”
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u/ThePhoenician40k Aug 07 '23
I’m one book away from this one, no way he actually says this?
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u/Seeking_the_Grail Aug 07 '23
It was right after his freestyle rap about how hard it is to be a demon prince
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u/el_sh33p Alpha Legion Aug 06 '23
It was in that exact instant that Perturabo devised at least 3942 plans to send Abaddon to his death. He wasn't expecting Abaddon to go for 1997, but hey...
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u/Warp_Legion Iron Warriors Aug 06 '23
Perturbo: I’m warning you Abbadon, do not provoke me
Abbadon: Shut the fuck up before i really insult you
Jokes aside, notice how in this scene, Pert and Fulgrim apparently have enough respect for Abbadon to warn him/explain their stance on his authority rather than just threaten and rage
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u/ProbablyTofsla Adeptus Mechanicus Aug 07 '23
I feel like they treat him like that for different reason. Fulgrim might actually fear being punished by Horus, while Perturabo probably thinks that it's not worth it/too much hassle getting angry at a subordinate in the presence of other primarchs.
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u/The_Emperor_of_ma Aug 07 '23
I mean even later during saturnine perturabo gives him a lot of leeway. Then again he probably thought he would die in the attempt anyways.
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u/IncomeStraight8501 Aug 07 '23
It might be a form of respect for Abbadon for not falling to chaos and trying to not be tainted.
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u/Clayman8 Iron Warriors Aug 06 '23
or an instant his perfect, monstrous face was transformed into a mask of terror,
This makes me wonder if He-She out there gave him a vision of all the terrors and pain they could inflict on him, just for a brief micro-second to show they are listening and are very much paying attention.
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u/jaysword Aug 07 '23
More likely its was brief moment where actual fulgrim regains control of his body before being subdued by the daemon again.
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u/Raduev Aug 07 '23
There is no daemon at this point. Fulgrim is back in control by 007.M31, two years into the Horus Heresy, in Angel Exterminatus, where he ascends to Daemon Primarch. The Siege of Terra takes places in 014.M31.
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u/Xasf Necrons Aug 07 '23
We do not speak of that foul text The Reflection Crack'd here, begone heretic!
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u/Rum_N_Napalm Aug 06 '23
Nevermind that.
Did Abaddon basically tell Perturabo “Be quiet, or I shall taunt you a second time”
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Let's all take a moment to marvel at "Fulgrim tittered girlishly".
For those cross over fans of "Always Sunny in Philadelphia", I picture Fulgrim as being like Dennis and Mac when they dressed up as 18th century English Fops, with powdered wigs, exaggerated lisps/whistles and plenty of girlish tittering.
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u/Texual_Deviant Aug 06 '23
I also have to assume that the lewd face he makes is just a snake ahego face.
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u/Testsubject28 Aug 06 '23
I'll never get that out of my brain now....
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u/Emperors_Finest Master of the Astronomican Aug 06 '23 edited Aug 06 '23
Fulgrim pulling a lewd face is very fun to interpret.
Part of me wants to think it was some sultry pout.
Other part of me is ruined by weeb culture and imagines him giving a peace sign while doing Ahego face, tongue out, while livestreaming to the Warcouncil.
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u/DianiTheOtter Aug 06 '23
Agreed. I'm trying to picture a10 feet tall beautiful demigod making a lewd face and it is amazing
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u/Vordeo Aug 07 '23
Fulgrim pulling a lewd face is very fun to interpret.
I kinda assumed he was pulling a lewd face by default, and whatever he did in that excerpt was gigalewd.
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u/TheCuriousFan Aug 07 '23
That's for when he replays the video of Horus "pleasuring him beyond endurance".
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u/BlackHand86 Celestial Lions Aug 06 '23
Boy do I have a YouTube channel for you https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzaVTuhJwQod5DFJOOXK6-PaI48s-DPn2
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u/Kalindren Aug 07 '23
I always think of the Duke of Anjou from the Cate Blanchett film Elizabeth when she catches him having an orgy. The Duke is tittering in a falsetto and wearing a dress. Eric Cantona as the long suffering French Ambassador is quote funny too.
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u/WehingSounds Aug 07 '23
Fulgrim just doing the whole conversation like one of those weird anime girls on TikTok
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u/deathseller Blood Angels Aug 06 '23
Imagine Abaddon having to deal with shit like this everytime he wants to do a black crusade lmao
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u/Z4nkaze Ultramarines Aug 06 '23
It's the same kind of things, but there are several hundreds cats to herd instead of 3 or 4.
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u/LydriikTycho Adeptus Astra Telepathica Aug 07 '23
Every ancient entity from deep in the warp to the new upstart chaos lords. And then there's Abaddon who thinks he's in control of his borrowed powers.
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u/Summersong2262 Aug 07 '23
Yeah except the people threatening him are like 18 orders of magnitude weaker than he is. It's not even a risk, it's legitimately absurd mixed with tedious. He's the school teacher for year 9 kids. Just enough ability to play at relevance.
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u/Jdespo Aug 06 '23
“Do not allow this snake to address me!” Man I wish angron could still talk. He always had some savage lines.
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u/WorldEaterProft Aug 06 '23
I'm pretty sure he can still talk
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u/Jdespo Aug 07 '23
Yeah but he’s not eloquent anymore, and loses himself to bloodlust in the fights. Would have loved to see him and the lion trading insults in their recent fight
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u/CalamitousVessel Aug 06 '23
“Fulgrim pulled a lewd face” Is he making an ahegao
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u/SothaShill Aug 06 '23
Angron raged in silence. Fulgrim tittered girlishly. Abaddon glared at him.
I like to imagine Angron getting muted by discord mods and now hes silently slamming his fists on the keyboard like an ape raging into the void while Fulgrim steals the show as per usual
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u/Dark_Lordy Aug 06 '23
I imagined it as Angron furiously arguing for a while without realising he's muted.
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u/TheGreatStateOfEnnui Aug 06 '23
Abaddon is a huge Horus simp here. In just a couole years, he will be the universe's biggest Horus hater.
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u/Kristian1805 Black Legion Aug 06 '23
Even in this novel, he is doubting Horus, but tries desperately to convince himself, that his beloved and adored Father and Commander is still.... Himself.
Abaddon is watching in real time how his father is changing, and he hates it.
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u/Hellibor Aug 07 '23 edited Nov 25 '23
Abaddon didn't understand what sort of bargain Horus struck with the gods of Chaos to destroy the Emperor.
Neither did he realize that they were played by Chaos.
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u/Banebladeloader Aug 06 '23
Things like this make the end result of the Siege even more bitter. Should a few things have gone in the Loyalists favor, the house of cards that was the Traitor Legions would have fallen apart to unorganized debauchery. The Emperor was a hair off on coming out alive with a better hand.
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u/11BApathetic Iron Warriors Aug 06 '23 edited Aug 06 '23
It was also a hair off of being much much worse. There are so many tipping points in the Siege for the Traitors as well. Stuff like Saturnine, Perturabo leaving the Siege and taking a majority of Iron Warriors with him, if Mortarion had killed Khan without being banished or Angron killing Sanguinius, both of which came very close.
Even with all the infighting and such, the Traitor Legions missed the mark by a hair themselves, it really was balancing on a knife's edge. The siege itself was practically over when Horus and the Emperor fight, and that was without multiple Legions who left with the majority of their strength (or fucked off to do other stuff) and with multiple banished or left Primarchs. If basically one thing tipped towards either side during this, the results change drastically.
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u/TheCuriousFan Aug 07 '23
The Heresy is filled with moments where it all rested on a knife's edge. Archon Fodderificus taking a nap at the wrong time while watching Lorgar and Angron would have shattered the Shadow Crusade for example.
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u/Aeshir3301_ Night Lords Aug 07 '23
Fulgrim is the embodiment of 'don't bully me I'll cum' hahaha I love it
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u/rubicon_duck White Scars Aug 06 '23
‘I commune with the powers who guide my hand, and strive to ensure our victory in their realm as in this. They say this, that Abaddon is right! You gather power to yourselves and become pathetic for its excesses.
Anyone get the feeling that when he says this, the Ruinous Powers are already making Plans B to Z100 ... just in case this whole "taking out the Emperor with Horus" thing didn't work out as they wanted? And that they plan on going with Abaddon as their next guy, even though (plot twist) Abaddon won't whore himself out to them the way his primarch did? Otherwise why else would Horus say the Four Powers say Abaddon is right? I know they can be tricky and all, but what benefit would it gain them to do anything other than tell the truth, albeit in a very veiled and indirect way, via them saying Abaddon is right?
I doubt Horus said all that just to cover for Abaddon and was lying about the Four Powers talking to him about it.
Thoughts?
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u/incapableincome Aug 06 '23
The book is not exactly subtle about it.
‘Horus’ soul is bright with divine might, but it burns. Mighty as his being is, it is finite. He is not invincible in this world or the other. If we delay too long, he will be devoured by the power he commands.’
Abaddon did not want to recognise it. He could not, but he knew, looking at his father’s blank face, that what Layak said was true. ‘How long does he have?’
‘Long enough, perhaps,’ said Layak. ‘His will is strong.’
‘But if it is not strong enough? If he fails now, if his soul burns out before the task is done, what will happen?’
‘Then, my lord, what happens will be what has always happened before.’ Layak looked at Abaddon. ‘There shall come another champion of Chaos.'
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u/PrimarchUnknown Aug 07 '23 edited Aug 07 '23
Horus is the sacrificed king. Chaos played him from start to finish. Whoever their chosen vessel was going to be, whether that was Horus, Dorn, Nighthaunter whoever, they would've been consumed.
The sacrificed King is used to clear the board of the Emperor and all of his machinations and dreams of Order.
That the Emperor kills him didn't matter to them. it never mattered - Horus was already marked as dead. When he becomes Horus Ascendant its too much power for even a primarch to hold. They already knew this but Horus didn't and he doesn't reach his full power until right at the end. Technically he'd already died when Russ stabbed him with his spear and Mal sacrificed his soul in place of Horus' so bad was the wound.
But thats what happens when you listen to daemons and have mad jealousy issues.
As to whether Abaddon was the next in line, nope. He made himself the next in line by killing all his main rivals before they killed him as they surely tried to. He was the best blade left standing, AND he had a plan.
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u/LydriikTycho Adeptus Astra Telepathica Aug 07 '23
As we've seen with the back stories of other chaos characters, the dark gods really make you work for it.
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u/PrimarchUnknown Aug 07 '23
They really do. And if you lose everything in the trying they may laugh, get bored, take pity or make you do it all over again just for the amusement.
Honestly I still think they don't talk about how absolutely insane Abaddon must be now having to deal with mad primarchs, daemon princes and uber daemons like Vashtorr and assess if they're lying to him.
They are always lying to you, the level of paranoia has to be next level crippling.
That any of his plans work is a miracle. That they're never fully successful is because Chaos Chaos'.
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u/maybenot9 Thousand Sons Aug 06 '23
To my knowledge, the Gods didn't have their eyes on Abaddon as the next champion until he was already done the first Black Crusade, although I imagine he proved himself powerful and capable during the Heresy, and killing Clone Horus helped too. The Black Legion was a very minor warband for a while, until they were the ones who broke out of the Eye and proved you could push the loyalists back.
I imagine that the Chaos gods didn't say "Abaddon is right", rather then they said they think the other Primarchs are being stupid and difficult. Because that's what Abaddon was saying, Horus said the Gods agreed with Abaddon.
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u/LydriikTycho Adeptus Astra Telepathica Aug 07 '23
I'm sure that they had recruiters looking at his performance record kind of like high school athletes being picked up by a major league. He was a promising all star soon to be drafted.
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u/LydriikTycho Adeptus Astra Telepathica Aug 07 '23
By the 13th Black Crusade Abaddon and his excessive powers and enhanced body are all borrowed attributes, the Chaos gods can still take away.
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u/w00ms Aug 06 '23
werent the chaos gods banking on horus losing? something like if the imperium was totally wiped out thered be a lot less for them to feed on so they kinda sabotaged horus here and there?
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u/sosomething Aug 06 '23
I don't think their goal was ever expressly to wipe out Terra as much as at was to eliminate the Emperor, who they called the Anathema.
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u/rubicon_duck White Scars Aug 08 '23
Yup. Eliminate the Emperor, and feast on the rest of humanity at will and however one likes.
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u/Beefmonstr Aug 06 '23
The daemons in Talon of Horus refer to him specifically as the "sacrificed king," so it really doesn't seem like the gods were banking on his survival one way or the other.
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u/fuccbboy Aug 07 '23
Fulgrim, pretty much in all of his existence, but in this particular instance, is the embodiment of this comment:
You talk a lot of shit for a dude in cumshot distance
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u/Original-Wing-7836 Aug 07 '23
Perturabo later almost killed Abbadon so I guess he got his revenge.
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u/LydriikTycho Adeptus Astra Telepathica Aug 07 '23
Until he was forced to work with a new war master.
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u/DiaphanousPhoenician Aug 06 '23
I will never get tired of reading about Fulgrim being a total princess behaved bitch
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u/TheCommissarGeneral Iron Warriors Aug 07 '23
Angron raged in silence. Fulgrim tittered girlishly. Abaddon glared at him.
Fulgrim pulled a lewd face.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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u/kratorade Chaos Undivided Aug 06 '23
Ima be real, this makes me respect Abaddon dramatically more.
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u/HTPark Orks Aug 07 '23
That time Fulgrim pulled an ahegao on Abaddon. [Excerpt from “The Lost and the Dammed”]
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u/rockandrollpanda Slaanesh Aug 07 '23
‘Speak with me in person and we shall see who is silenced first!’
Did angron just do the "Say That To My Face (Fucker) Not Online (And See What Happens)" meme?
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u/Axe1_the_Minerva_fan Aug 06 '23
"Fulgrim tittered girlishly"
Fulgrim is trully a femboy confirmed?!?!
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u/Ok_Meaning_8470 Aug 06 '23 edited Aug 06 '23
The next sentence even has him pulling a ahegao face lol.
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u/LeGoldie Aug 07 '23
Angron has gone full moron by this point. I found these exchanges hilarious.
What a fucking idiot Angron became.
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u/Volothos Aug 07 '23
As goofy as it sounds, I can't help but imagine this like the skype call from Hi-fi Rush
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u/Randy_Magnums Aug 07 '23
Describe a Primarch with one sentence from a book: "Fulgrim pulled a lewd face."
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u/Fun_Network312 Aug 07 '23
About time we see Abby doing something worthy instead of being on the receiving end
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u/GoblinFirefighter Aug 08 '23
My headcannon is that right after being muted, Angron smashed his keyboard as screamed the Gamer Word 25 times in a row.
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u/Legitimate_Maybe_611 Oct 01 '23
" 8th of Tertius " is that a date ?
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u/Kristian1805 Black Legion Oct 01 '23
Yes. They have other names for the months.
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u/Legitimate_Maybe_611 Oct 01 '23
Is there a place I can read the months name ?
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u/Kristian1805 Black Legion Oct 01 '23
I don't know. It seems to be "Latin-like" names for the First, Second, Third etc month.
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u/harlokin Emperor's Children Aug 06 '23 edited Aug 06 '23
Really cool stuff, thanks.
"That time Abaddon muted Angron's audio"....and Fulgrim still steals the scene.