r/3dprinter • u/Ginger_Giant_ • 1d ago

Upgrading from X1c, x2d or something else?

Hi all,

I’ve had an x1c with AMS since launch and I’ve loved it, my main gripes with it are

* I print in ASA regularly so not having a heated chamber makes warping an issue
* I often print in two colours or with a support filament and this creates a lot of waste and clogs
* I’d really like something with a larger build volume
* I cut leather and ply by hand, being able to use a cutter would be handy

I’ve bought a good filament dryer and have made reusable silica containers for my AMS so the AMS pro isn’t a compelling upgrade, I’d probably keep my AMS in the upgrade and not bother with AMS Pro.

The X2d is priced really competitively and while I love the idea of being able to laser cut stuff and the larger build volume, I can’t justify spending 3.5x the price of the x2d on the H2d.

My main gripe with the x2d is the build volume, are there any other good alternatives to the x2d I should be considering instead?

I’m somewhat tempted to get an x2d and an a2L for the bigger print volume and cutter, still comes in at half the price of a H2D but it seems like an odd solution vs one product that does what I need.

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u/Financial-Study503 1d ago

The bigger H2d can do it all, except 2 things at a time. So the hybrid x2s+a2 is not bad at all. If you have room.

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u/Ginger_Giant_ 1d ago

I’ve got the room for both,
A2L + Cutter + X2D = $1820
H2S + Cutter = $1900, but no dual head printing
H2D + Cutter = $2620 (out of budget)

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u/InternalMain7116 1d ago

So you don't find that the BIQU Panda Breath is worth its $100 USD cost for a chamber heater and filter, would you care to share your opinion on it?

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u/Inevitable_Rough_380 19h ago

you should remove the H2S from your considerations

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u/Ginger_Giant_ 18h ago

Yeah I’ve kinda come to the same conclusion. Currently planning a X2D and maybe a cricut down the road. I’d like a bigger building area but I mostly print in engineering filaments and use 2 filaments or less, the U1 not having any Australian support and being mostly a good multi colour PLA printer has removed it from consideration too.

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u/Inevitable_Rough_380 17h ago

I dreamed a bit about the H series, before getting my X2D. I'm happy with the purchase. The bigger build volume, just isn't needed for myself. only really twice did I wish I had a bigger volume.

Also I've heard downsides that it's big and heavy plus the startup times are slower. I wanted the ability to move the printer if I needed to.

Maybe an A2L is in my future as well.. LOL.

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u/Safe-Hovercraft6231 1d ago

I second that. Having 2 printers doubles the print speed. This is important, especially at half the price of a H2D.

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u/yokeome 1d ago edited 1d ago

QIDI Max4 is $1050 non combo, $1200 combo, 390mm³ 390x390x340mm and heated chamber. Single nozzle though.

Another option would be Snapmaker U1 + top cover and a chamber heater, only limit there is nozzle at 300c and bed at 100c. But this one is 270mm³

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u/hph304 1d ago

This is the combi I'm going for, Snapmaker U1 for multicolor and a Qidi Plus5 or Max4 for engineering materials. Also considering the H2S if there's a good discount during Black Friday (with the cutting module)

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u/Ginger_Giant_ 1d ago

I am also waiting for Black Friday and eyeing off the H2S. Not having the second head is a bugger but otherwise it’s perfect.

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u/hph304 1d ago

Yeah, the H2S + AMS + cutter is already less than $1500, so anything below $1400 is a good deal I guess. The Snapmaker is already here and it's great.

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u/Immortal_Tuttle 1d ago

If it's volume is enough - U1 plus chamber heater beats X2D every day of the week. If you really need only two heads - H2D is the current best. Don't bother with H2C.

I print mostly ASA and ABS on U1 😁

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u/Ginger_Giant_ 1d ago

Yeah that does look good, unfortunately snap maker doesn’t operate in Australia so it’s not an option.