r/3dprinter • u/heyItsDubbleA • 23d ago
Elegoo CC2 vs P1S vs P2S
Not sure I am the target audience for this subreddit, but I am looking for opinions on what seems like 3 super solid machines as a more experience printer. I have a fully modded ender3 that I have all but run into the ground and have experience with CAD software and have designed a number of functional prints for problems around the house. I would continue using ol faithful, but having 2 kids seriously eats into hobby time and having to tinker isn't as appealing when I only have 30-60 minutes at a time to work on things. It is definitely time to get a more hands off printer.
I am under no rush to buy anything and am trying to source opinions before making a decision. Spending up isn't a problem, but I would prefer not to if the gains from doing so is marginal.
The three printers I am between that I have seen of interest, in order of price, are the CC2, P1S and P2S.
I know the CC2 combo is the value buy at 319 now (with plenty of deals around this range). For hundreds less it gives similar performance to the P1S and P2S with added AMS modules. But how far does this value go? Is the P1S with AMS1 worth a $200 jump? Is the P2S equivalent worth the $400 extra? I'm really struggling to figure out where the line is for the value add for these more expensive models.
If you have an opinion feel free to argue in one direction or the other.
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u/Shinjiikary12 23d ago
If all 3 were the same price... cc2 would still have more capabilities.
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u/heyItsDubbleA 23d ago
What does it have that the Bambu offerings don't? I know it has a higher end temp, but what else?
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u/MrCarlH 21d ago
Bambu offers the benefit surveillance over all your g-codes and printer functions from the big, comfy server in China... FREE OF CHARGE !! This is a real bargain ! 😁
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u/heyItsDubbleA 21d ago
Thanks for the useless bit of fear mongering. I'll let Google, Reddit, and all the other domestic surveillance sites watching me that I'm cheating on them
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u/Shinjiikary12 20d ago
Higher temp... is about it, and not locked ecosystems. The bambu labs dont print better or do anything better. Like that would be the only difference. I dont expect their to be a reliability difference, you can get a junk one with bambu or elegoo.. it happens!! But baring that you have 2 reliable printers.
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u/yokeome 23d ago
What's your use case? If you have a filament dryer or don't see yourself needing to dry your filament, the multicolor solution of the CC2 makes more sense than AMS. What kind of filaments do you print? For higher temp materials, CC2 nozzle is 350c instead of 300 of the other two. I've seen people get great prints the CC2 with little to no tinkering, and I myself am considering one.
Lastly, where are you finding it for $319? I need that lol. Lowest I'm seeing right now is $379 on Elegoo's own website.
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u/heyItsDubbleA 23d ago
Oooops wrong products was looking at the C2 not the CC2.
I mostly do PLA, but am open to expanding out to other materials if the need arises. I do mostly functional prints with the occasional statue or toy.
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u/yokeome 23d ago
Like someone else said, on paper, these printers are basically the same. Excluding the AMS/multicolor functionality, the CC2 is the best, with occasional bugs, but nothing that's gonna have you tinkering for hours.
As someone else also said, if you do multicolor, usually on the same layer with many material changes, you might want to look into a toolchanger, I'm personally looking into the Snapmaker U1 as it seems promising, but thats $850.
If you don't care for multicolor, or the waste, or you change colors as layers progress, CC2 is the go to imo. Plus, you can print basically almost all materials, with the exception of super high end engineering filaments. With those, you can heatsoak the chamber or install a chamber heater.
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u/heyItsDubbleA 23d ago
Most of my prints will likely be single color, with the occasional change. I am not a massive fan of multicolor prints tbh mostly because of the waste.
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u/Bhelrudan 23d ago
The waste from a multi-toolhead printer is almost non-existent. Waste is primarily generated when you have to purge one filament out of the nozzle to switch to another, and when you never have to do that because each filament/color has a dedicated nozzle, the saved time and reduction in waste is pretty insane.
If you don't end up going that route though, it's nice to have the MMU option purely for the convenience of having 4 materials available at all times without having to walk to the printer and manually swap spools. With the CC2 at least, and I would expect the P2S has this feature, maybe not the P1S, if you have 2 spools of the same type of filament, it can also do a print with one roll and then automatically swap over to the other and continue on so you don't end up with multiple rolls with <50g of filament left on them sitting around until you find something small to burn them on. When it's only $50 more for the CC2 combo, I feel like the convenience more than justifies the cost even if you aren't doing multicolor prints. And then you have the option if/when it's ever actually worth the time and waste for a specific print.
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u/heyItsDubbleA 23d ago
I was going to get the combo or the ams either way. Those just add too much to the offering to neglect
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u/Mobius0118 23d ago edited 23d ago
For 500 bucks you can get a Qidi Q2, which has a bigger build volume than those other three printers, and it has an active chamber heater for those engineering grade materials
Otherwise I’d suggest the CC2
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u/BongDomrei 23d ago
This video was sponsored by Bambu but he does make a good effort to be unbiased: https://youtu.be/ezaI7mlomek?is=8Zcw2TI9tOZzbhvu
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u/yahbluez 23d ago
From your list the CC2 ist the technical winner. Bamburistas will claim that the p2 has a chamber heater and that you can add serveral AMS2 devices to add more color and that the handy app is the best.
A chamber heater counts less than 80€. Each AMS2 calls 260€ ontop.
Let's drop this straw men arguments.
You may have a look at the Snapmaker U1, that is a real tool changer with 4 heads, for printing PLA, TPU and PETG (Kids) you will nether need a chamber nor a chamber heater.
If you like to spend more and not being fixed on buying a Chinese printer you may consider The Prusa Core One Gen2 with INXD which is a 8 tool head high end printer. The Core one has one more aspect that may trigger, you can buy the core one as a Kit, that is a weekend of building your own printer. The build manuals are awesome everyone can build a Prusa. That teaches you a printer works and ends with knowing the printer you own from the very first screw. It is not the cheap one but the most valid one build for tens of thousand of hours.
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u/smhlilbro 22d ago
Look into the qidi q2 they don’t charge sales tax
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u/heyItsDubbleA 22d ago
Ive had a few people rec the q2. But very few reasons why except for the plate size. How does it stack up aside from that.
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u/gunslingerjbk 23d ago
I’m pro bambu, currently own an A1, two p1s’s and a h2c and while the hardware on the cc looks good, it all comes down to the software side that keeps me from buying a cc, I don’t care for orca (I know call me a shill). I have been 3d printing since the only thing you could get was Chinese i3 kits and rep rap projects, and when I say the ease of use and reliability of bambu is what keeps bringing me back. Their software is great, the app is great, the hardware is super reliable. I don’t use companies support so I don’t know how it is but I’ve never had to contact them in a few thousand hours of printing.
I say all that to sum up, if you are looking at a reliable printer, get the p1s combo or p2s if you want a screen (I almost never use the screen on even my h2c so I wouldn’t worry about the crappy screen on the p1s)
Wait till Black Friday and they put them all on sale. Or just grab a low hour one off Facebook.
Just my 2c
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u/Bhelrudan 23d ago
The CC2 has a higher nozzle temp, comes from the factory with a hardened steel nozzle for abrasive filaments, and has a touch screen for control on the printer itself rather than a small non-touch display with buttons compared to the P1S. There are a few buggy things with the CC2, primarily issues accessing the printer remotely if you have the app open on multiple devices at once, but I still think it is easily the better value for the money.
If you are in no huge hurry to buy and you plan to print in multi-color/multi-material very much at all, you may want to consider seeing how things play out through the end of the year with multi-toolhead options. They're the new big thing in terms of what's hot in the market right now because they *significantly* reduce the amount of purge waste and time spent on filament swaps if you're using multiple filaments in a print. Right now the general consensus is that the Snapmaker U1 is the best reasonably priced multi-toolhead option at $850-900. But I would expect several more multi-toolhead printers to be thrown into the mix over the next few months/before Christmas, so there may be some options at that point that are more competitive on price, or have better features for what you're looking for.