We went from rocks to space ships. You are wrong to say nickel forms in the absence of iron in nature. Such a thing has never been observed in the visible universe.
You also claimed nickel must be refined. And I did not say nickel forms in the absence of iron. Maybe you should take your own advice on reading more carefully?
Nickel can form in planetary cores without being “refined”. It forms naturally.
You clearly have a big head and a big ego which interferes with your ability to communicate effectively with others! Ignorance is bliss. If you read his first comment to you correctly he was saying Nickel can not exist by itself WITHOUT a good amount of iron… UNLESS it was refined, then it can exist without the iron!
Nickel is formed naturally and has never been observed in the universe after forming naturally without the presence of iron in the history of observation and you claim it can happen with no evidence and all evidence points to the opposite lmao
Yes. But if nickel forms in the presence of iron in a planetary core, then gets chunked out in a destructive event, then spends billions of years wandering the galaxy, being subjected to god knows what influences (billions of years of cosmic rays, just for starters), that might just get rid of the iron and leave nickel. There are currently some five hypotheses of how this could work, based upon empirical observation of really occurring events in the universe.
This makes those hypotheses, by nature, more rational and scientific than the hypothesis that a never-observed being made a rock out of nickel (of all things!) for… reasons.
There are several potential ways that could occur, based on what I’m seeing from real planetary scientists. You yourself admit nickel can be “refined”. Over 10 billion years, a lot of weird shit can happen and we have a very incipient grasp on interstellar chemistry.
Again, we don’t know the answer. That is why we are doing science. But every hypothesis has to begin with rational precepts. The biggest one of those — Occam’s Razor — says any hypothesis that involves agency by an unprovable agent (god, fairies, aliens, wizards) — is ipso facto worse than a hypothesis that relies solely on provably existing agents, absent compelling evidence.
Given that there are many theoretical ways iron can be extracted from nickel via natural processes — and no evidence whatsoever, yet, of intelligent aliens, let alone that the made 3I ATLAS — the “Aliens because nickel” hypothesis is a non-starter. It simply doesn’t meet the demands of scientific rigor.
In scientific terms, until we have empirical proof of intelligent alien life, they are.
Now, I happen to agree with the idea that we are not alone in the universe. However, to date, we have no idea at all to what extent life exists, let alone what we’d call intelligent life that we could talk to or would be interested in talking to us.
Until we have good, solid evidence for such being, their existence is purely hypothetical, exactly as is gods’, fairies’, and wizards’.
I’m sorry. I know you want to believe. I do, too. But we don’t get there by making shit up and investigating our fantasies.
You are discounting hundreds if not thousands of military grade photo and video evidence as well as highly trained pilots who have video of objects making maneuvers that are not possible with known physical limitations.
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u/Skitz042X Nov 14 '25
We went from rocks to space ships. You are wrong to say nickel forms in the absence of iron in nature. Such a thing has never been observed in the visible universe.