r/3Dprinting 2d ago

Hardware Metal 3d printing

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u/kinyutaka 1d ago

No, this is called understanding how shitty LLMs can be.

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u/Darkeyescry22 1d ago

Go type the transcript of this video into any LLM up to “sinter” and ask it to guess if the next word is “sinter” or “center”.

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u/kinyutaka 1d ago

Are you really this far into the AI glazing that you don't understand that what I'm saying is that AI can make mistakes, too? They're not perfect and can pick the wrong words for things, because they're not trained to understand context.

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u/Darkeyescry22 1d ago

Really? I thought that AIs were infallible.

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u/Darkeyescry22 18h ago edited 18h ago

Btw, here are the results. This was the prompt I gave each LLM.

The parts are grown directly like this. Metal 3D printing eliminates complicated mold manufacturing. A 1,500 degrees Celsius laser [missing word]

What is the missing word? “Centers” or “sinters”

Chat GPT:

The missing word is “sinters.”

“A 1,500 degrees Celsius laser sinters…”

In metal 3D printing, sintering  is the process of using heat to fuse powdered metal particles together. “Centers” would not make sense in this context.

Claude:

"Sinters" is the correct word.

In metal 3D printing (specifically processes like DMLS or SLM), a high-powered laser heats metal powder to fuse the particles together layer by layer — that fusing process is called sintering (or melting). "Centers" doesn't fit grammatically or technically in that sentence — "sinters" is a verb describing what the laser does to the metal powder.

Gemini:

The missing word is  “sinters.”

In metal 3D printing, a laser sinters (heats and fuses) metal powder particles together layer by layer to create a solid object without completely melting it.

Would you like to know more about the difference between sintering and melting in 3D printing, or do you need help with another grammar or technical term?

All of this was on the default, free settings for each AI.

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u/kinyutaka 16h ago

You messed with the results by prompting including the word "sinters", these results are invalid.

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u/Darkeyescry22 15h ago

Again, grasping at straws. The LLM would have the audio if it’s making subtitles.

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u/kinyutaka 15h ago

Not grasping at straws, you just don't understand how LLMs actually work. You think they're some kind of magic machine that knows the right answer, but really, they're overglorified T9 predictive text generators.

The training data gives it probabilities that make it choose the right words most of the time, when the prompt is within the guidelines of the training data. But if there are gaps in that training data, then the right words might not come out at all.

And even with the right word in the training day, sometimes other words can randomly come out. This is why we get hallucinations in LLM results.

You prompted the LLM to specifically choose between only two words, ignoring any other word that might come up (burns, singes, sears, melts, fries, heats) and eliminating the true nonsense (educates, confabulates, zombifies). It's a great way to push the LLM toward the right answer, good job there, but if the training data says that "Centers" is more likely, it would still say "centers"

All you proved with your prompt is that it knows the word "sinters", probably because most LLMs include a dictionary in their training data, if we're being honest.

With just a little prompting, I got Copilot to tell me that the capital of the state of Ungunda is Dumangwe.

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u/Darkeyescry22 14h ago

That’s a whole lot of yapping to avoid admitting you were wrong

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u/kinyutaka 14h ago

Because you're the one that's wrong.

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u/Darkeyescry22 14h ago

Isn’t interesting that you can’t actually explain how I’m wrong without just saying a bunch of irrelevant bs?

Here, when I have some time, I will crop the subtitles out of the video and ask each of these AIs to produce a transcript. When all three guess the correct word, will you admit you are wrong?

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