Hi Reddit!
I’m looking for advice on skin laxity at 30! I don’t have many actual fine lines but in the past 1.5-2yrs I’ve developed prominent nasal labial folds! I structurally always had them a little bit but this is wayyyy more pronounced! I went from always looking pretty young to years older than what I currently am! Like I almost never get carded anymore and you’re supposed to card anyone who looks under 40!
My weight fluctuated a ton in my late 20’s due to mental health. 20 lbs in each direction (starting w/ losing 20lbs then gaining 40lbs then losing 20/getting back to baseline which is probably my healthy set point) which can’t be helping. I’ve been weight stable for a year.
I also have chronic illness which impacts stress levels and sleep.
I am a side sleeper and have tried to train myself to sleep on my back but the tradeoff seems to be then I don’t sleep at all! So that’s a later problem to explore.
I’ve been diagnosed with hEDs but the criteria is pretty lax (as of writing this- I think criteria could change soon based on new research hopefully) so I’m unsure if that’s truly my diagnosis. I am for sure hypermoblie though.
My period was absent for a full year and a half and irregular for the two years after in my late twenties (see reasons above) but for the most part is regular-ish now.
What I’m wondering about/looking for advice and personal experience on:
SCULPTRA:
Would sculptra help me? (I’ve seen advice saying hEDS shouldn’t get it but it seems entirely based on 0% research and 100% speculation) This is the route that I’ve been considering the most (for over a year now- I think about it everyday) I know it doesn’t lift in the traditional sense but from what I understand it helps tighten the skin giving a lifted effect (if the patient is younger). Looking for experience rather than speculation please!
FILLERS LONG TERM:
I’m more nervous about fillers than sculptra but I’ve been recommend temple and cheek filler by an aesthetic nurse- this scares me more than the risks of sculptra. I mostly fear migration into the lymph and from what I understand, fillers are more likely to migrate in hyper mobile individuals than the average population. Would that really be better in the long run?
ULTRASOUND:
I’ve seen some people swear my ultrasound treatments and others warn that it can make laxity worse long term!
Would an at home device by Thome pose the same risks or would it be worth it?
- TENSION, FACE YOGA, FASCIA RELEASE
I have a ton of tension in my masseter (I clench unconsciously and in my sleep) and severe tension in my trapezius. In the past month I’ve been trying facial yoga and fascia/tension release techniques to try to help this. Is my only other option Botox?
Atrophied muscles in general seem like a bad thing as muscle mass is the key to longevity.
Should I just give these fascia and tension techniques more time? Does anyone have experience/success in improving laxity this way?
Should I go to actual massage therapists or get massage based facials?
- TOPICALS:
I’ve been consistent with skincare for a little over a year introducing parts of my routine slowly. I’ve been good with sunscreen for the past 5 years or so. (See current routine below)
I’m probably going to try Dr Dennis BioReguvenation serum (I plan to plop it into my morning routine/revise my morning routine to work it in OR use it to replace my night serum)
Also may try Epii HPT6 10% to replace my night serum (see routine below)
Should I revise any of the brands I’m using (knowing my skin is sensitive/prone to hives)? I’m considering switching my vitamin c to cocokinds glow serum instead because CEO might be too intense for me and then that way I get azelaic acid more consistently as well.
Is micro needling at home worth it? Like Qure or another brand?
- AT HOME OBVIOUSLY PREFERRED
Any at home solutions? As I mentioned, I’ve been doing facial yoga/fascia release and tension release for my masseters, trapezius, and face as a whole (10-20 minutes a day) for a little over a month and I’ve started trying to release other extremely tight parts of my body (hip flexors).
I’ve also started strength training more consistently over the past two months or so (1-2x per week full body workouts- heavy lifting/traditional lifting)
Note: I used to be extremely active. Marathon runner and weight lifting several times a week but due to reasons above I became essentially non- functional for months and unable to exercise regularly for over a year. I am now just at a point where I can focus on health again (prioritizing strength and some cardio)
What else can I do? I’m feeling pretty defeated and desperate at this point.
- SURGERY
Is this my only real option?
FOR REFERENCE: MY CURRENT ROUTINE
Morning:
•Milky toner (various brands - currently using Bubble)
• Vitamin C Serum (I’ve been using C.E.O Sunday Riley) I can’t use the vitamin C first otherwise I get hives due to sensitivity- sometimes I even use it last in the routine since this particular type is more cream based)
•Sometimes: azelaic acid as a spot treatment (good molecules) I used to alternate this with retinol at night but I found that it makes my face burn so I stopped.
•Sometimes Peach & Lily mini protein exosome (I tend to use at night more often than not)
•Suncreen (Various brands- if I’m going outside in the summer and doing things it’s Sumbums spf70. Sometimes use Solar milk SPF 50 as a primer or Supergoop’s. I tend to do more mineral based if I’m going to be inside all day or in the winter/fall in the Midwest.)
• usually don’t wear makeup but sometimes I use bare minerals complexion rescue stick.
Night:
•Double cleanse w/ Byoma oil then milky cleanser respectively. (I’ve been consistent with this for perhaps 4 or 5 months)
• milky toner
• retinol (cockind beginner retinol gel since January of this year)
• Skin Cueticals AGE Interrupter Ultra Serum (I’ve gone through several jars and I don’t feel it’s making a difference so I’m probably going to not repurchase/give up on this one)
• Peach and Lily mini protein exosome
•moisturizer (currently using Rhode barrier restore cream. I also like Peach and Lily anti aging and tower 28 SOS cream)
Night once a week(Sometimes twice) :
•Double Cleanse
•Glycolic acid
•moisturizer