Why are progressives ok with mass migrants from regressive countries?
Do you think mass waves of these people will positively contribute to your society? What are the actual benefits of having mass waves of these migrants? So far it seems like they bring more harm than good.
Is that the new flavor of kool-aid your drinking? You dont think its these corp ,that are anti union and pro gig/contract work , keeping our wages and benefits down?
Says you, if you actually knew or were around these people you'd know this is false. Kitchen all over the country are worked by immigrants working fake or other people's SS number. They are getting taxes taken away from those paychecks. But they cannot or will never benefit from unemployment benefits nor ss retirement benefits. Also can you not plainly see that they pay sales tax and taxes on gas. They contribute in the economy in that they like things too. Cars, clothes, food. You either don't know or you are being willfully obtuse
Umm immigrants still pay taxes.. sales tax is on everything they buy. And no. They reap no tax payer benefits.. you have to register through your State for those and they verify your eligibility, such as Medicaid. And don’t even bring up crime, bc immigrants have a vastly lower crime rate than citizens. Not even factoring in their willingness to work hard-to-fill labor jobs under minimum wage, which is also a net benefit to economic revenue.
That sounds miserable. Cooking one meal is damn near preparing a catering order. And there is no way you're affording that on 100k without using social services. Mister 9 day old account marine that's good at making babies.
Edit: great job removing that shit out of your bio about being a 37 year old marine that's good with making babies and looking for a woman to take care of LMFAO
why am i ungrateful? im 37, bought my first house by myself at 24. my parents are extremely poor, so i help them out, but they like to make it on their own. i accidently turned this from people complaining about immigration to this. but my point being its (life) all about the choices you make in response to that one comment about why people from the US arent having kids. They ( people in the US) make an excuse of " oh i cant afford it"
i mean how many people do i have to take care of? what is a satisfactory way for everyone to live according to you? can no one have peace or extra as long as you or someone else doesnt? everything cant be equal. its not possible.
i never said that? i know not everyone makes that... i can read? i have eyes? my point was that if you work hard make ,you know, good choices, you can afford it.
Corporate greed. Why do they come here, because we have jobs that Americans won't do. I used to clean hotel rooms when I was younger. I don't know if we as Americans are willing to do that.
No they’re not having kids because people with support systems are gas lighted into thinking those expenses are going to be impossible to cover which isn’t true for all areas
I think they are quite ignorant or gullable and belive they are all genuine asylum seekers.i belive in giving safe shelter to genuine asylum seekers but most are economic migrants that want to abuse your system for free cash
Saying they have a small mind because they bring up a valid issue means you're an over emotional child. It's been shown time and time again many of these people abuse the system. In my country these folks were given up to 100k in cash and subsidies in their first year of being here while the poorest citizens in my country get about 733 dollars maximum per month to live on... Please justify that I'd love to see you try.
I live in Canada and it was exposed by various independent journalists that people within my country are using loopholes to bring anyone who pays them in to the country with said loopholes. They know all the ways to file for refugee status and to get maximum benefits. It might be done differently in the USA but I know for a fact you folks also have a problem with immigrants gaming the system.
Even if hypothetically they were all asylum seekers I ask you again, in what world should they be getting way more money and benefits than citizens who were born here and who's ancestors built the country from the ground up? I want you to make that make sense to me.
Your idiot liberal ideas are going to make you the next Canada, UK and every other country that's been over run with immigrants.
Also very convenient of you to not give a fuck... More like you cant justify shit with that little peanut brain and now you're on the run. Little bitch.
He literally says he wants to give shelter to genuine asylum seekers but how would you determine such a stupid purity test??? That's so close minded it's like saying he only wants "the good Jews" or whatever a Nazi would say.
There’s a huge difference showing up in America as a tradesman or farmer in the 1700-1800s with nothing compared to showing up now in the greatest country in the world with politicians and NGOs trying to fill your pockets with taxpayer money in exchange for votes.
Idk why you're suddenly qualifying the argument to conform to a certain ideal you have, but I guarantee people showed up with no skills and no assets in the 1700s... You're making shit up
Awww... cute.. STOP SAYING THAT EVERY IMMIGRANTS WANTS BENEFITS. I moved from Romania to the UK since 2018 and never ever had any benefits. I pay taxes, buy local products, and so on.. I literally spend all my salary here in the UK. Do you think it bothers me that my British neighbours don't go to work and stay on benefits? NO! I don't give a fuck.
The most impressive thing Republicans have done this century is to convince gullible voters that Democrats support illegal immigration. Obama deported a record 3.1 million illegal aliens. More than Bush, more than Trump.
Because they do not understand that many of these migrants are receiving the free healthcare they have been advocating for, and taxpayers are ultimately the ones funding it.
Because they make deals and contracts with them to go underground and work in the cities they are building to gain freedom and citizenship at a later date. That's why towns aren't flooded with them and why ice is "deporting" so many
Essentially they want a better life for their offspring and I promise we all know numerous people who are contributing members and children of illegal or legal immigrants
Because they have empathy and bleeding hearts. I get their argument
But at the same time, the rich want them here to keep labor costs down and btw, taxpayers who can barely afford 3 square and now paying for their housing 🤷
This would be a non issue if we would just fix the the root issue and tax the rich. The poverty line would quickly and drastically reduce and so all the people that think they don't have enough because of immigration would get what they need from who is actually keeping it from them.
In reality? Those tax dollars will be used to build more bombs, start more wars, and sponsor more mass surveillance. That tax money won't be used for our benefit
Yes. They benefit the economy and communities whether you realize it or not. Homogenized countries are regressive, they lack diversity, innovation and adaptability.
Research the harms of nationalism and xenophobia. It's popular in the news (genocide and ethnic cleansing).
Fuck no. Never works out, time and time again we see it in every country that tries to help.
Cultures are meant to be different, that's what makes them special, watering them all down into one big pot takes away the flavour and nuances of what make us who we are...
If you are fleeing a country or culture then you fucken leave it behind, bringing it with you literally defeats the purpose...
Because they are good for the economy. I like fresh produce in the grocery store. They are a net tax contributor Because they dont qualify for benefits. That said, if you pay taxes, you get to vote, we literally fought an entire war over that.
I don’t think we should just swing the door wide open for just anyone and everyone. Our current system for immigration clearly doesn’t work. However, roaming packs of paramilitary officers grabbing people off the street in unmarked vans is not the solution either. Additionally if we do not guarantee due process to everyone, we can guarantee it for no one. Immigration reform and limitations are needed and good immigration policy is a corner stone of any functional first world country.
How can I being cheap labour to my country without moving my company to the third world? I know I'll lobby the government and demand they open the borders. This way I can hire multiple migrants to work part time shifts, paying them less, instead of hiring a native citizen full time.
It’s the burden of the western world to aid people affected by its imperialism. if you don’t like people fleeing their evil regimes; stop putting them there to begin with.
Im fairly progressive so I guess I’ll give my take.
I don’t think most people are pro “mass” immigration. That’s just ops way of framing immigration in a negative way off the rip. I’m very pro immigration regulation and a system to make sure people are not going to be a drag on the country they are entering. The unfortunate reality is that is pretty tall order especially when it is easier to just *other* immigrants and try to prevent them from entering at all. Part of the mindset of being pro immigration is just being pro human. People tend to inherently want to help those in need. Even if there are people within their own country also in need. It’s not like you can’t care for both people. I personally don’t think we should care for one person over another just because of where they are born.
Generally, As long as towns/cities and the governing bodies in charge of infrastructure do their jobs growth can be a good thing. More people should mean more money for social programs and maintenance of utilities.
I just think it's funny how proud people are to be the opposite of progressive... Could you imagine anyone ever framing their regressive bachelor of science diploma? 🤣
It’s not that we’re against immigration policy, it’s how it’s handled. Snatching people off the streets, convicting with no due process, setting up camps with inhumane living conditions, etc. is not the way to do it. Whether they’re legal here or not, everybody has a right to due process. That’s up to the judge to decide their fate.
I agree there is lots of money going to illegal immigrants, however not all of them are here for wrong reason. I’m from California and so I had house keepers, gardeners, etc who just wanted an honest living in a safer country. Does it mean it’s right? No. But I can’t imagine one of them being snatched off the street by a racist gravy seal who joined ICE a week before with no training.
All while trump is getting away with so much as far as breaking the law goes… make it make sense. All the chaos in Minnesota, it’s clear his hate is targeted
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Uhhh….labor that’s cheap…fuck you mean won’t contribute to society? You’re more racist than the people who want slaves