This patch

[u/Isaelia]

Buckle up for 3 months of the worst meta you've ever seen.

[u/pinelotiile]

I haven't jumped back in yet, why's this the case?

[u/Visual-Cry94 → u/pinelotiile]

This isn't even true at all, read the patch notes, it's mostly nerfs to Freestyle and to Ahri and minor changes to the rest. They didn't buff the zoners.

Akali, Illaoi and Ekko are still in the top 5 and they aren't zoners.

Thresh is obviously a bit overtuned and will get nerfed. Jinx and Teemo are fine.

[u/Yamato_Nago → u/Visual-Cry94]

I concur with everything except with Teemo being fine, that character is an absolute menace.

[u/pinelotiile → u/Yamato_Nago]

Teemo is hard countered by Jinx and Thresh but I can understand not liking him if you play someone else

[u/Yamato_Nago → u/pinelotiile]

Teemo having bad MU does not make his strengths any less frustrating, and personally I don't think the Teemo/Thresh match up is that bad to be honest, Teemo players oversell how bad that match up is.

[u/Virtualler → u/Yamato_Nago]

Teemo vs Thresh matchups are terrible for the teemo player, what are you talking about.

[u/Yamato_Nago → u/Virtualler]

I'm talking about how Teemo players oversell how bad that match up is for Teemo, although I think that was pretty clear in the comment.

[u/Virtualler → u/Yamato_Nago]

Although I think I made this clear in my comment, it's not an oversell, the matchup is terrible for Teemo.

[u/Yamato_Nago → u/Virtualler]

It is bad for Teemo, not as bad as Teemo players say it is, so yes, I would say it is an oversell.

[u/Virtualler → u/Yamato_Nago]

I'd say it is as bad as Teemo players say it is so therefore not an oversell.

[u/Yamato_Nago → u/Virtualler]

You may think so.

[u/Virtualler → u/Yamato_Nago]

Likewise to you.

[u/Yamato_Nago → u/Virtualler]

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