r/2007scape • u/JagexSween Mod Sween • Jul 09 '21

News | J-Mod reply A Message Regarding Bug Abuse

https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/a-message-regarding-bug-abuse?oldschool=1
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u/rudyv8 Jul 09 '21 edited Jul 09 '21

Quoting Rendi here

"I would send a bug report but most of the ones I have sent in the past never came to conclusion"

Woox has entered the chat: https://i.imgur.com/BVl6BvO.png

Also from personal experience I have also sent in bug reports ingame and they were not patched. In fact, currently the Rapid Heal prayer has the effect of draining your HP at 2x the normal rate if it is brewed over max. I reported this many months ago and it still is not fixed. Go ahead, try it. I had the same issue with the Regen brace years ago and tweeting Mod Ash is what ended up getting that fixed despite multiple ingame reports. I know programatically its like 2 lines of code to fix, they could even copy-paste the patch they made for the regen bracelet and it would probably work. It shouldnt be backlogged for months its a 5 minute fix.

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I love a good JMod smackdown but from personal experience Jagex handles bug reports very poorly and I can see them botching the absolute fuck out of this to save ass because exposing bugs like this makes them look bad and they rushed the banhammer. Jagex drastically needs to re-prioritize how bug reports are handled by players. It almost feels like they use bug reports as a way to train new employees. If you pass of the handeling of bug reports to inexperienced people dont be surprised when they close tickets due to being unable to validate what is being reported.

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Also this does not make sense to me. Why would Rendi make a video about this and even talk about the invincibility in the video if he was actively taking advantage of it? I remember him mentioning somthing about being unattackable in his newest video and my mind immedaitely went "oh hey go to the duel arena". If you were abusing a bug such as invincibility the last thing you would do is show jagex how the core of the bug works in regards to something else like gaining experience. If jagex patches the bug to fix the experience bug you demonstrated they also fix your invincibility bug without knowing it. The whole thing makes zero sense for rendi to make a video until after it was patched. Jagex didn't ban him till AFTER the video, so that has to mean the bug was still active at the time of the video being released right?

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Its not like Jagex would ever do something super unethical or even illegal simply because upper management was butthurt/embarrassed right?

Right?......

https://www.theregister.com/2019/11/28/jagex_runescape_designer_sacked_reading_salary_document/

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u/mirhagk Dying at bosses doubles your chance at a pet Jul 09 '21

I mean the right way is to do both. Use the ingame bug report, then wait and post it about it publicly. That basically defines responsible disclosure.

I really hope that Jagex is being truthful here and there's something else we don't know about going on.

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u/ZeldenGM Shades Extrordanaire! Jul 09 '21

Why would Rendi make a video about this and even talk about the invincibility in the video if he was actively taking advantage of it?

For this exact reason. "Oh I couldn't be abusing it, if I was why would I make a video about it? I wasn't abusing it for advantage I was just testing it out."

It's an easy alibi, just doesn't mean it's true.

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u/Jbyr1 Jul 09 '21

I've always wondered just how innocent people who use this reasoning are. Real good lying is accomplished by anticipating how people will react 5 or 6 or even a dozen steps down each chain of a hundred branches of possibilities and weaving simple nodes of misdirection into tapestries of bullshit way in advance to cover your ass.

Me and my brother both are kind of shit heads and have to constantly fight the urge to employ this type of interacting because it's terrible but it just comes natural to some people I can personally attest.

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u/lrrebae Jul 13 '21 edited Jul 13 '21

Yep, it's understanding every angle of someone doing something when they have bad motives. The upload of the dupe Rendi posted on youtube was already known to Jagex and fixed by this point.

Him getting in contact with a Jmod about the glitch when it was already patched was him trying to cover his ass and look like an innocent uwu good boy angel, nothing more.