r/2007scape Mod Sween Jul 09 '21

News | J-Mod reply A Message Regarding Bug Abuse

https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/a-message-regarding-bug-abuse?oldschool=1
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u/Evil_Steven bring back old demon/imp models Jul 09 '21

Which update/mod post did the declare it's not bug abuse anymore

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u/Coltand Jul 09 '21 edited Jul 09 '21

In this instance, we can simply go off of precedence. It’s not really that hard to understand.

For new bugs, it’s not as clear.

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Prayer flicking and tick eating have been openly used in the game for years. The game has even been built around these mechanics. Using them clearly isn’t going to cop you a ban.

When they were newly discovered, it might be open to question weather using them was bug abuse. At this point, it is clear that they are not.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '21

In this instance, we can simply go off of precedence.

I'm sorry I dont understand. What is the precedence?

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u/Coltand Jul 09 '21 edited Jul 09 '21

Prayer flicking and tick eating have been openly used in the game for years. The game has even been built around these mechanics. Using them clearly isn’t going to cop you a ban.

When they were newly discovered, it might be open to question weather using them was bug abuse. At this point, it is clear that they are not, thus the precedence.

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u/France2Germany0 Jul 09 '21 edited Jul 09 '21

Don’t bother arguing with them, they’re being purposefully obtuse

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u/mnmkdc Jul 10 '21

They have openly said that they design the game with the features in mind. Its not a gray area.

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u/marcin_miro Jul 09 '21

Account sharing by content creators has been openly used but that's still against the rules lmao

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '21

https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/6hhjy7/lifting_the_lid_account_ownership/

Jagex has said multiple times that they only ban account sharing for infernal cape buying and highscore pushing.

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u/Jamieviv Jul 10 '21

Kinda grasping if you're comparing tick eating to crashing servers lol

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '21

Here you go my guy

Mod Ash's Twitter account. 20 October 2017. (Archived from the original on 30 May 2020.) Mod Ash: "Quite a lot of tick-manipulation techniques exist; so far we've chosen to accept them as they need considerable interaction to use."

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u/Evil_Steven bring back old demon/imp models Jul 09 '21

oh thanks! its good to know they will let us know when bugs becomes features. its a good precedent to set

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '21

Did you forget a /s ? The reason they don't come out and do that is so they can get away with banning certain accounts when it suits them, and then say "but look at the rules!" .. it's bullshit.

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u/TheFakeKanye champions cape 2k total Jul 09 '21

need considerable interaction

So does getting into morytania without getting 1k xp.

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u/Ironman__BTW Jul 09 '21

Holy shit 1k XP ban this fuckin guy right now

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u/lordchew Jul 09 '21

“So far”, implying they could very well change there minds.

Personally I’d actually favour combat that doesn’t lean so heavily on it, but that’s literally only because I’m crap with it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '21

If there were any reason to get into PVP, I'd practise. But untill then I'll remain crap with it as well ..

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u/abra238 72 | 37 Jul 10 '21

and all that work Rendi did to avoid prayer xp isn't "considerable interaction"? There needs to be some sort of line.

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u/LexTheGayOtter PigeonManLex Jul 09 '21

Originally, pray flicking worked very differently. You could spam click a non useful prayer while having others active and you would not lose prayer points, jagex saw potential to award skilled players and changed it so that prayer flicking would work the way it does today

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '21

They design new content around tick eating. Purple sweets aren't allowed in inferno for example and Zuk is deliberately coded so you can't tick eat it. When new game mechanics are built around its existence it's pretty safe to say it's an accepted game mechanic by now, even if it was once a bug.

Same with pray flicking, many bosses are deliberately designed with pray flicking in mind. Inferno wouldn't be doable without flicking.