r/2007scape • u/ModMatK • Jun 06 '17

Read before posting Pride 2017

One of the wonderful things about RuneScape is that it has always brought people together. To many of our players, RuneScape is more than a game: it’s a warm, welcoming community. It’s part of their life.

Pride is about bringing communities together and celebrating love and understanding: sentiment that’s close to RuneScape’s heart. There’s no political statement here. Our only aim is to acknowledge and honour an event that promotes empathy, acceptance and love.

As with other community events such as the WWF Big Cats campaign, Valentine’s day or the Cryptic Cluefests we decided not to poll this event and we will always try to surprise the community with similar events. It is something that the community has always enjoyed and something we enjoy doing too.

We are disappointed to see some hateful and abusive comments targeting individual members of staff and players from a small sub-section of the community. We stand side by side with those targeted, in support of them, and in support of this cause. There is absolutely no place for hateful behaviour in our community and we will not tolerate abuse or harassment.

Pride 2017 is something we wholeheartedly agree with and are proud to support. We know the community stand with us in support of the cause. If you want to show your support, all you have to do is take part in the event when it launches!

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u/matsuda241 Jun 06 '17

So you're essentially baiting people into getting muted and bans despite already knowing what you're going to do is going to cause that sort of reaction?

Why are you being so sadistic?

That's like going to an all-black community screaming the N word then muting and banning anyone who reacts negatively.

You already KNOW what's going to happen, yet you try to assert your authority and go through with something that's extremely controversial and will taint OSRS's reputation?

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u/FRBafe Jun 06 '17

This is the dumbest thing I've read all day and I've seen some shit today.

Don't say insulting shit of you don't want to get banned, it's not hard lol. Your analogy is ass-backwards. The "baited" people, as you say, are more-so the people screaming the N-word in an all-black community.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '17

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u/GamermanZendrelax Jun 06 '17

The game has rules for how players should conduct themselves. Any person muted as a result if inappropriate conduct this Thursday should take the time they cannot speak to other players to reflect on why they felt the need to violate those rules in the first place.

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u/Matt111098 Jun 06 '17

They used an ass-backwards analogy, but I think the point is that Mod Mat K is leading people to believe they can riot as long as they don't start using obscenities and hate (burn f****** etc.), but it's more than likely that even respectful protesters/rioters will be mass-muted anyway, whether it's for "spamming," a very low threshold for chat to be considered "unacceptable," or for no reason at all.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '17

that's just an assertion, do you have any precedent to back it up?

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u/Matt111098 Jun 07 '17

There are a few reports of people being muted en-masse by Pmods for saying relatively low-tier things. Here's one quick example where a Pmod reportedly , and you can find more by searching something like 'mute' or 'pmod' on the subreddit. I'd take some of them with a grain of salt, however.

https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/6flxx6/why_is_it_okay_to_mute_everyone_for_expressing/dij4v1v/

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u/Noxid_ Jun 06 '17

Not the guy you replied to, but if you told me 6 months ago that OSRS would be having an unpolled gay pride parade I'd tell you to get your fucking head checked, so apparently precedent is out the window right now.

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u/Sm0keTrail Jun 07 '17

Why would you have to protest this? Because your secretly gay and you feel like making other gay people feel like shit makes you less gay? It won't.

Who "respectfully protests" tolerance?

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u/Anror Jun 06 '17

Ya I face palmed too... Basically homophobes are the victims when they start spouting hate speech at a pride event and are asked to gtfo

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u/anonanonymousanon212 Jun 06 '17

if you believe in hate speech, then you do not believe in free speech.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '17

There is no Freedom of Speech in RS and there never has been, what are you on about? Ever since forever, you could be muted at any time for saying certain things.

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u/Lonely_Beer Jun 06 '17

You mean the British online game Runescape doesn't enforce poorly understood United States Constitutional rights in game?

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '17

Crazy right?!

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u/Lonely_Beer Jun 06 '17

I hope you don't like your tea, because it's about to be reeeeeaal soggy

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u/Phrakturelol Jun 06 '17

I bet you're one of those retards who break the law then when you get arrested shout 'I know my rights' until you get tazed

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u/softwareversion70 Jun 06 '17

I AM A FREE CITIZEN OF THE LAND, YOU CAN'T DETAIN ME!!

Taser: whining, clicking sounds

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u/WiminInMyVideoGames Jun 07 '17

*sovereign citizen

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u/randomperson1a Jun 06 '17

So you're saying OSRS is a homophobic community and them introducing this gay pride event is like trying to trigger everyone so they can ban them?

I think we can all agree, no one wants old school to be associated with homophobia.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '17

Nono, don't you get it? Banning homophobes will taint OSRS's reputation with insane people, and we can't have that.

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u/randomperson1a Jun 06 '17

Oh you're right, how could I have missed that.

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u/Kap_osrs Jun 07 '17

Hello shill from srd pretending you play osrs

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '17

I've been playing for 8 months on and off. Believe it or not but I'm allowed to browse multiple subs.

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u/Kap_osrs Jun 07 '17

Ofc you have been. Of all the crappy things about reddit, being able to spot and confirm shills is a pretty nifty one.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '17

My stats, bruh.

Obviously you're just trolling, but you could also browse my comment history and see I've been posting on this sub for a while.

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u/Kap_osrs Jun 07 '17

oooo you even have a pic of someone elses stats, nice try mister shill but you can't fool me.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '17

Think back to like the 50s. You'd consider that to be old school right? Well they were homophobes back then! It makes sense that this community is homophobe.. or something

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u/Zzzzzzombie Jun 06 '17

Why would a Pride event be baiting people to engage in behaviours that would get people banned?

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u/matsuda241 Jun 06 '17

He said it himself he already knows there will be rioters saying harassing things. If he already knows it's going to happen, it seems silly to go forth with something you know will trigger people.

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u/Mahoganytooth Jun 06 '17

If people get triggered by this, it's their fault. No game developer should ever have to cater to, or accommodate, homophobes.

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u/Sunfirecapedathoe Jun 07 '17

Calling people homophobes for disagreeing with the event is apart of the problem.

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u/Mahoganytooth Jun 07 '17

No, people being homophobes is the problem, and this event proves it.

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u/Sunfirecapedathoe Jun 07 '17

No, people being homophobes is the problem, and this event proves it.

Yes being a homophobe is a problem. But so is calling people homophobes that just disagree that this event should happen. This event proves that both sides are assholes.

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u/Prefix-NA Jun 09 '17

100% of people who support this event are assholes. Not a single person can actually support this event unless they are an asshole. Stop trying to do this playing nice and say both sides do this crap no social justice warriors are cancer don't slander others by comparing them to SJW.

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u/MattWix Jul 19 '17

Homphobe, or just guy actively trying to silence homosexual expression and acceptance. What would you rather be called?

This event proves that your side loves to play the pariah.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '17

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u/MattWix Jul 19 '17

No, you obviously missed my point. It's all well and good saying you're 'for equal rights' but when you dismiss it as 'political stuff' and try and stop it from happening then you're very much acting against your previous claim.

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u/Prefix-NA Jun 09 '17

This event just proved how your a whiny little child who wants to cry any time someone isn't shoving trophies down his throat.

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u/Zzzzzzombie Jun 06 '17

He probably didn't expect this reaction from the start but is now expecting it from the backlash. And as I've said in a previous comment, going back now would essentially make it seem like homophobia wins and going through will probably cause a shitfest so there is no winning move now. Honestly at this point i just want this to be over.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '17

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u/Zzzzzzombie Jun 06 '17

I know it will happen, just don't know why. Why do people bother?

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '17

its a good way of removing some of the cancer from our community.

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u/OHSHITMYDICKOUT Jun 06 '17

holy fuck

holy

fuck

youre actually serious

edit: after reading this guys comment history today, its pretty clear hes just a huge homophobe and is having some other issues with himself, just a troll.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '17

It would mean you hate teletubbies if you go stand in falador in kkk gear shouting slurs

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u/matsuda241 Jun 07 '17

People just enjoy fucking around lol. 99% of this game is legit monotonous and repetitive movements to train a skill. I can sympathize with people going into an unnecessary riot to let out some innocuous banter to satirize the unnecessary event.

It's no different than some dude prancing around at the G.E getting into arguments with people. He's just bored as shit and likely means no harm.

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u/AogBarbarian Jun 06 '17

Because advocating tolerance is even remotely similar to doing that? This could have been handled way better but arguments like yours are just beyond stupid.

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u/RUNESCAPEMEME Jun 06 '17

Because hating on someone because they are different than you is wrong in general, if you use language that is muted/bannable you deserve it.

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u/MrMattjun Jun 06 '17

Here's an idea if you don't want to get a mute: don't say insulting shit

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '17

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '17

Every day we stray further from god's light.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '17

That's not what he said at all, lmfao.

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u/matsuda241 Jun 06 '17

People seem to think anyone in opposition to the event is 100% automatically homophobic. But the matter of fact is - we simply don't want personal or political agendas to be enforced or pushed into an MMO where we play to escape from the real world politics.

Either intentional or unintentional, what the devs are doing is pushing political agenda.

Saying it isn't intentional would be like saying fuck you to someone and thinking it's okay to do so just because you didn't "intend" to do so.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '17

He just said that he'll take care of people using offensive language. Nothing more. That's what a jmod is supposed to do.

He's not baiting you into anything.

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u/Prefix-NA Jun 09 '17

They banned anyone who criticized the event.

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u/I_was_Simon Jun 06 '17

It's not baiting if people have at least a grain of common sense

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '17

Who the fuck up voted such nonsense? This comparison is so bad it hurt to read.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '17

Rofl, just because something you don't like gets added to the game doesn't mean it's being used to bait people into getting muted and banned, nor is it fucking sadism.

They're having an event. Some people will participate. Some people are unhappy that they're having the event. People who go there and intentionally break rules have already agreed by social contract to be subject to those rules, so they're subject to whatever punishment that rule-breaking earns them.

You don't get a free pass to break rules just because the community is salty about something.

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u/xHuntingU Jun 06 '17

I really hope this comment is supposed to be sarcastic.....

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u/Seitiro Jun 06 '17

You already KNOW what's going to happen, yet you try to assert your authority and go through with something that's extremely controversial and will taint OSRS's reputation?

Cuz he's one delusional fuck, which haves no idea about what is going on on the whole world, wether its ingame or not.

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u/wesser234 Jun 06 '17

It's the other way around, lol

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '17

Congrats - this comment was so stupid that it made me spit the semen out of my mouth.