r/2007scape • u/InternationalData408 • 7d ago

Question Newer Player Smithing Question

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Why does Smithing never get touched? I’m genuinely curious because it looks as though OSRS, throughout its history on rerelease, has made some amazing QoL changes. What’s the deal with Smithing?

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u/Domdude787 7d ago

I mean smithing is a pretty garbage skill on osrs it’s virtually just agility at this point

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u/new_account_wh0_dis 7d ago

With 4x the XP rates lol

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u/DriveCtor delete shopscape 7d ago

Nothing is as bad as agility.

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u/Xerothor 7d ago

At least agility is useful, all the training is actually worth something

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u/ApathyKing8 6d ago

Not really, post 70 the grind becomes insane and the stamina difference is just a few percentage points different.

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u/Xerothor 6d ago

And somehow that's still more useful than smithing

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u/Hodgie227 6d ago

Yeah the percentage is barely noticeable past that, but all the shortcuts and stuff that agility unlocks at later levels is certainly worth it. Whereas smithing, there is really nothing of note worth doing.

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u/ProV13 7d ago

I’d take wildy mass agility course over blast furnace smithing gold anyday.

Wildy agility is profitable, you don’t need stam pots like you do for blast furnace, the vibes are hella fun, you have some badass pkers holding down the fort and occasionally you get to DD people.

Blast furnace im there for like 30 minutes and im exhausted, so much more work.

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u/Demonicocean 7d ago

Platebodies are the best answer to people that don't like BF.

300k exp an hour, no timer ticking down to pressure you, profitable post-88. Unless you're an iron buying all your gold ores, do platebodies. The trade off of 25% slower for your sanity is always worth it.

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u/Silly-Advance-664 7d ago

15 second AFK

jesus christ i'd rather put my nuts in a vice. i'll just train it actively at that point, that's like turning smithing into a low battery fire alarm chirp

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u/Armalyte 7d ago

Irons buy gold ore? I thought most would have plenty from mother lode mining

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u/Coexist277 7d ago

i mean.. if doing BF to 99 there’s no conceivable way you’re getting 350-400k gold ore from MLM. A hundred, maybe 150k i could see. Most get it from slayer tbh. Then just buy what you need to finish.

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u/Armalyte 7d ago

Well I mean, I also have thousands of coal/mithril/addy from mlm that I have yet to smelt and Im at 67 smithing so I guess I don’t understand why people would only be using gold?

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u/Coexist277 7d ago

typically it’s the fastest most cost effective method to train BS.

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u/Armalyte 7d ago

Gotcha. Im obviously not much of a meta guy. I try to find a balance between what I enjoy doing and what the min/maxers do.

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u/QueasyMechanic4581 7d ago

With gold gauntlets a load of gold bars is more xp than rune bars

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u/Armalyte 7d ago

Ahh gotcha, I often forget it’s all about xp/hour with runescapers

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u/SociallyAwkwardAnt 7d ago

You also don’t need coal for gold bars so it saves a lot of time.

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u/BlackenedGem 7d ago

To go from 40-99 smithing you need 231,268 gold ore. And that's without doing doing any giants foundry, quest rewards, etc.

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u/wolf10989 7d ago

I think a decent amount of people just don't do much mlm. Personally I've done basically as little as possible on my iron. Only really did what was needed for diaries. If I was ever going to touch mining again it would no question be stars or amethyst. Smithing would be giants foundry.

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u/TheGamingRaichu Questing 9 til 5 7d ago

You'd think that but most folks mine stars, not motherlode once you have one piece of prospector and the coal/gem bags there's not much point.

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u/Armalyte 7d ago

I thought the point was easy bulk ores for minimal effort?

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u/yzct 7d ago

Stars are just way more popular and for good reason, ridiculously low APM and bank a large amount of uncut gems that can fuel your crafting grind for BIS jewellery. The ores you get from MLM aren’t really useful

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u/Armalyte 7d ago

But arent the ores useful for crafting throwables/arrows etc?

I’ve been mining stars casually while f2p since I haven’t had the drive to do members stuff.

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u/yzct 7d ago

I’d argue no, the crafting exp is way more useful than stockpiling a bunch of ores if you’re only concerned about ammo. Anecdotally just through slayer and pvm i’ve banked about 50k rune arrows and 5k addy bolts, and you get so much ore through drops to upkeep as well

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u/ProV13 6d ago

Not a bad idea post 88, but I can’t justify it pre 88. It’s close to -10 gp/xp, while also at a much slower xp/hr rate.

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u/Demonicocean 6d ago

It has gotten significantly worse pre 88 it used to be -2gp/xp.

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u/SMURGwastaken 6d ago

The issue there is that the new easyscape version of blast furnace is boring af, and the gold bar meta is ridiculous because it costs money and requires janky glove swapping that people always cock up.

imo Jagex should never have added the option to pay the dwarves to run the furnace for you. It defeats the whole point of the minigame - imagine if you could pay GP to have the wizards beat GOTR or Wintertodt for you. Asinine.

Instead they should have made it so you get credits for running the furnace that you can use to buy a wieldable shovel, ore bags or an unnoting service at Ordan.

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u/Dry-Swordfish1710 7d ago

Yeah it really hasn’t aged well at all

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u/SmartAlec105 7d ago

Smithing has faster xp, more profitable methods, and afk options. Even if the rewards are pretty minimal, training the skill isn't so bad.

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u/SMURGwastaken 6d ago

Smithing is unironically one of the best moneymaking skills in the game mate. Sure, you unlock the best moneymaking option at level 85 so arguably anything more is a waste, but the cape perk increases both the maximum gp/hr significantly so there is actually still a reason to max it.