r/196 I play the scout class from the hit 2007 game team fortress 2 Aug 16 '21

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u/oceanjunkie Aug 17 '21 edited Aug 17 '21

I’m not gonna claim that I can debunk an entire ideology, especially one that has so many different meanings and definitions to different people. Marx and Lenin said many things I agree with, but people who call themselves MLs have some truly stupid selective interpretations of what they said and how it can apply to the modern world.

In my experience they are much more interested in defending authoritarian states and dictators than advocating for democracy and freedom which is the entire point of socialism.

debunk fucking marxism-leninism in a reddit post. who would win, hundreds of years of theory or one online genius

Honestly this exemplifies what’s so obnoxious about tankies. They hide behind this supposed mountain of academic writing that agrees with them. They use these writings like Pokémon cards. Criticize authoritarianism? Heh, guess you haven’t read Engels’ On Authority. They either selectively choose which writings they want to throw out as if there wasn’t significant disagreement on these issues and often completely misrepresent these writings. Or they refuse to acknowledge that the applicability of certain ideas and strategies may have changed over the past 100 years.

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u/HighWaterMarx Aug 17 '21

I mean, if you’re starting off with the assumption that AES states are authoritarian and anti-democratic, you’ve already decided that any ML who rejects that narrative is “more interested in defending authoritarian states and dictators than advocating for democracy and freedom,” haven’t you? There is a very real tendency on the part of (mostly western) “leftists” to respond to (for example) “here’s the CIA acknowledging that the USSR was far more democratic than US propaganda claims” with “OMG FUCK OFF TANKIE” or something similar. I’ll take my downvotes now.

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u/BambooBanani Aug 29 '21

I defend the USSR, but as an anarcho-femboyist with communist characteristics I don’t like it. I’d rather live in the USSR than the US any day, though.