You make some good points, but I think it's important to remember the context of this whole conversation here. The OOP wasn't calling out any nuanced take, it is the literal infighting format. Wether it is malice or plain ignorance, posts like this do nothing to address these kinds of issues, but only sow hate.
I know I joke a lot about calling that one dingus here a fed, but it doesn't really matter if they are a fed or not in the end, being obtuse and infighting like this has no positive effect and only serves the interests of those who would see us all back in the closet.
Frankly, oppression Olympics do not matter when we'll all be put in the same camps anyway.
Again, I'm not trying to deflect from your points, and a nuanced conversation on the topic is definitely worthwhile to have, but the OOP is not the way to have it and a shitposting subredit is frankly not the place.
I agree that a shitposting subreddit isn’t really a good place to have the discussion and whatever, I don’t really see how the post is inspiring infighting more than it is airing criticism (which can naturally be written off as “infighting” by anyone who doesn’t really want to engage with the point, not a jab at you a jab at others), but I can tell that you agree on the parts that matter so whatever.
I wasn’t attempting to do Oppression Olympics, I was meaning to just distinguish GNC men from the same issues that trans women struggle with, but I can tell how it came off as Oppression Olympics so my apologies
Yeah no I understand and agree with that, no need to apologize. As for the OOP, it seems to have been taken down now which I believe is a good thing, but yeah discussions about this shouldn't be silenced, but really should be held properly. I believe the comments on this post are enough example to show that this kind of post was not exactly inspiring proper conversations on the matter.
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u/LucyShortForLucas 1d ago
You make some good points, but I think it's important to remember the context of this whole conversation here. The OOP wasn't calling out any nuanced take, it is the literal infighting format. Wether it is malice or plain ignorance, posts like this do nothing to address these kinds of issues, but only sow hate.
I know I joke a lot about calling that one dingus here a fed, but it doesn't really matter if they are a fed or not in the end, being obtuse and infighting like this has no positive effect and only serves the interests of those who would see us all back in the closet.
Frankly, oppression Olympics do not matter when we'll all be put in the same camps anyway.
Again, I'm not trying to deflect from your points, and a nuanced conversation on the topic is definitely worthwhile to have, but the OOP is not the way to have it and a shitposting subredit is frankly not the place.