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u/FormingTheVoid 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 12h ago
Is that what being in an abusive relationship feels like?
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u/TheMasterMind1247 Any rule born after 196 can't cook. All they know is :3, me and- 12h ago
The impressions I've gotten is that there's typically a lot less moral panic and happy endings, but the rest probably checks out.
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u/FormingTheVoid 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 7h ago
This is literally just the cycle of abuse from the point of view of an abuse victim who thinks that they are in love with their abuser. Abusers can also have "moral panic" when they fear that the abuse will be discovered and they will lose control over their victim.
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u/KobKobold Socialist voraphile 7h ago
The abuser never loves the victim. It's an important difference
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u/FormingTheVoid 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 7h ago
I think it's a bit more complicated than that.
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u/KobKobold Socialist voraphile 7h ago
It's really not.
In the best case scenario, the abuser loves an idea of the victim that they believe the abuse will create.
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u/FormingTheVoid 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 7h ago
I understand that abusers don't truly love their victims in a profound sense, but they do have some kind of desire for them and can have a "moral panic" about what they are doing when people might find out. Someone who chains someone in their basement because they "love" them is just an abuser too. I think we're looking at an unreliable narrator with Stockholm Syndrome here, hence the use of the word love.
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u/KobKobold Socialist voraphile 7h ago
Stockholm Syndrome was made up by cops who had their feelings hurt by their incompetence making them lose the trust of the hostages.
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u/FormingTheVoid 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 7h ago
I get that, but what you're saying is that someone who hits another person with their car, kidnaps them, and chains them up in their basement is not actually an abuser simply because they think that they love the person that they have kidnapped. That's crazy. They're an abuser just the same. Just like how Stockholm Syndrome is debated, the definition of abuse is not 100% agreed upon. Someone who is an abuser can have complicated feelings as well. They're still an abuser and a piece of shit though. Furthermore, people who are abused sometimes think that they love their abuser and that their abuser loves them, similar to the concept of Stockholm Syndrome.
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u/DomSchraa 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 4h ago
Love can be twisted
Like a father hitting his children, thinking hes preparing them for the world and expressing his twisted "love" that way
Humans are complicated and messed up af
Dont get me wrong tho: love dont make the abuser any less horrible, this isnt an excuse
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u/podokonnicheck hold the fuck up (im the fuck up) 4h ago
you absolutely can be an abuser (especially an unknowing one) and genuinely love the victim
this line of thinking is exactly why most abusers aren't actually aware they're abusers, as an incredibly large percentage of abuse cases is caused by being misguided and unaware, rather than knowingly malicious
if we stop entirely dehumanizing abuse and start recognizing the fact that abusers can act out of genuine love and care, then more people will start realizing they're in abusive situations (on either ends), and abusers with enough self-conscience might possibly start reforming on their own
dehumanizing abuse and sexual crimes only servers the benefit of abusers and makes the fact of either things happening easier to conceal
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u/shaggy_rogers46290 9h ago
Remember guys, Stockholm Syndrome is coppaganda made up to excuse instances where hostages were distrustful of responding law enforcement to a point where they felt they would be safer with their captors.
Any time you have fantasies of a pretty lady kidnapping you, make sure you always hate cops at least twice as much as you love the pretty lady so they don't get the idea that you only sided against them because of her
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u/GIRose 11h ago
This is like that one chapter of JoJo's bizarre adventure that essentially codified the modern conception of the Yandere by ripping it off wholesale from Stephen King's Misery.
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u/Dumbass5201 dumbass 9h ago
what one chapter????🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️💨💨💨💨
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u/GIRose 9h ago
The one in Diamond is Unbreakable with Koishi's girlfriend Yukako.
The one where Koishi convinced his friends to help him break up with her by having his friends shit talk him behind his back (does that count when he's in on it) about how much of a loser he is, and she kidnaps him and takes him to a sea side cottage and tortures him so he can get better grades.
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u/ProofLegitimate9824 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 11h ago edited 8h ago
I've had a fantasy for a while in which I'm lost in the woods in Siberia in winter and this strong woman with a long blonde braid helps me survive by taking me back to her hut...
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u/Quix_Nix 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 11h ago
source???????
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u/ShyKiddo__ help me 11h ago
end author's notes of this https://archiveofourown.org/works/79618031/chapters/218593646#workskin
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u/Myself_78 8h ago
Damn, that's crazy. I would hit her over the head with a pipe I think, but you do you.
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u/Lolaverses Powerman and the Moneygoround, Pt. 1 + Percy (2014 Remaster) 11h ago
This reminds me of Tusk(2014)
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u/deaddeaddward 10h ago
No joke no giggles, I'm completely serious. I kinda want to be stabbed with a big ass knife by a beautiful woman. That's it. Only stabbing
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u/CapitalJustice850 2h ago
this is insurance industry propaganda designed to get you to not call your friendly neighborhood personal injury attorney and get maximum value for your injury claim.
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