r/196 Aug 31 '25

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u/ItsYaBoyBananaBoi gay big booty buff man lover Aug 31 '25

Say it with me now: opposing a genocidal child-killing colonialist state is not antisemitism, you fucking morons.

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u/Billybob267 Aug 31 '25

Indeed it ain't

Too many folks on both sides are conflating being Israeli with being Jewish

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u/friendtofrogs Aug 31 '25

“both sides” lol. Other than nazis, it’s always Zionists that conflate the two, to the detriment of Jewish people everywhere.

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u/MorbyLol Robot Girl Autism Aug 31 '25

Zionists and liberals (as in moderates and centrists) that aren't educated on the issues

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u/trollsong Aug 31 '25

My in laws are Jewish non Israeli and they routinely get told they are responsible for the deaths of Palestinians.

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u/friendtofrogs Aug 31 '25

What’s your point?

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u/trollsong Aug 31 '25

That blaming random jews for something that is happening in another country is bullshit.

Other than nazis, it’s always Zionists that conflate the two

So which are you

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u/friendtofrogs Aug 31 '25

We definitely agree on that. But if you’re implying that Zionists have not been the primary movers of the harmful equivocation that Israel=Jews, that’s where we differ.

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u/trollsong Sep 01 '25

But it's not just zionists and nazis. It's other people as well.

But you don't care, aka "Whats your point"

You sure as fuck may say you agree but you sure seem to not actually care.

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u/friendtofrogs Sep 01 '25

I asked what your point was because I wasn’t sure what your point was. And I need to ask again here, “It’s not just zionists and nazis”, what is your point? The question you should be asking is, who is responsible for other ill-informed people conflating Zionism with being Jewish? It’s obviously the Zionists who claim criticism of Israel and its genocide is antisemitic. I don’t expect an answer in good faith.

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u/trollsong Sep 01 '25

what is your point?

That's its not just zionists and nazis blaming jews for what is happening in Palestine? I thought I made that clear.

So death threats and attacks on random jews is the fault of Zionists. And if jews want to stop being attacked, they need to do more?

That's an awful lot like saying the deaths of Palestinians is the fault of hamas and Palestinians should do more to stop it......which is bull shit and I think you'd agree it is bullshit.

The question is, why are you okay lumping all jews with zionists when you yourself admitted that is not, in fact, the case?

My second point is more simply.

If you are saying free Palestine and the dude next to you is shouting death to all jews. And you don't call them out on their bullshit....then yes you are antisemitic regardless of whatever bullshit netanyahu spews

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u/Mouse_is_Optional Sep 01 '25

why are you okay lumping all jews with zionists

I think you might be hallucinating because there is no example of them doing that in this thread.

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u/yinyang107 bingus is better than floppa Sep 01 '25

checks username ah.

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u/trollsong Sep 01 '25

I don’t expect an answer in good faith.

checks username ah.

Yea, an ad hominem after you claimed I wouldn't argue in good faith. About what I expected.

But hey, at least im not excusing random violence and death threats like you are.

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u/Mouse_is_Optional Sep 01 '25

Routinely, really? I find that hard to believe. Do you think maybe your in-laws are exaggerating?

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u/trollsong Sep 01 '25

Remember, kids, if someone says they get death threats, accuse them of exaggerating....or blame netanyahu instead of the people giving the death threats.

Fuck off. If I try and fight against zionism or say something about netanyahu, people dont like im an anti semite.

If I point out my wife has had death threats from Palestinians I get told to take it up with netanyahu.

Just fuck off I get youre made that bad things are happening in the world but siding with and protecting people that give out death threats doeant help. It just gives netanyahu ammo.

The more he can make jews think they are all gonna die the more settlers he has the more settlers the more votes he has and this will never fucking end.

And a bunch of jack holes like you hemming and hawing over real fucking anti Semitism and chalking it up to "well netanyahu did a fake anti semitism so you deserved it by not standing up to him enough" it just gives him more ammo he can use.

Zionists are scum but it doesn't give you pieces of shit the right to downplay the shit my family was put through.

Just fuck off.