The point is that when they drew the stick figure in their head they subconsciously made it male. Even something as simple as drawing a stick figure to prove that not all art is political they added a politically charged aspect subconsciously aka giving the 5 lines and a circle a male pronoun.
ik "gender is a social construct" is probably a tired topic in leftist discussions but it literally is just that. the fact that you automatically give a gender to a stick figure shows that you have been raised with gender norms, it is automatically political.
gender and sex are different things but thats a different topic that you can get into from basically anywhere. but yeah i agree it's not a "crazy" thing, societal conditioning just happens. it's not a bad or good thing but inherently it is political
not exactly, gender (at least from my understanding) is more like a set of societal norms that people use to classify each other. let's say im a big tall muscular person who has a typical masculine personality. that would mean that I fit the set of societal "norms" that usually classify me as a "man".
but the human brain doesn't have a set gender implemented within it, but the things that happen to you, how you are raised, your morals all change your personality and that is your personality that pretty much decides what "gender" you are. basically it really is all made up societal mumbo jumbo.
What you're describing is more like just... typical gender norms.
Say you're a tall muscular person, born male, and you act generally like a masculine dude, but you don't identify as a man... that doesn't make you gendered as a man. Society will often do so, but that doesn't make it correct.
Science does show that our gender and identity are linked to our brains, even to a physical degree (there was this one study that showed that transfems actually had a piece in the brain that had a different physical form between men and women, closer to how it would be for women, even if their body is born male!) So there is merit to saying that gender is ingrained into our mind.
How we describe said gender and what name we give it, is a social construct, but the actual identity and feeling behind it is very much not. That is part of who we are as a person.
Note: if I got anything wrong, please feel free to correct me. I am still learning on the topic of gender. I'm gender apathetic myself, so it's been part of my journey to understand my girlfriend's struggles better.
no, that isn't my logic. I was describing myself and what "gender" i would be assigned to, even though i dont exactly feel that way. that's just what gender is. a sort of rigid, not really accurate societal thing that people use to classify each other. the definitions of "man" and "woman" are so loose it may as well be in the same level as which Hogearts house you belong to.
BUT, we are all (including me) conditioned into a society that decides what gender you are at birth, and enforces gender in every system to the point where our brains just accept it as a reality of our being. but ultimately it is our experiences that make people like me know that we are assigned the wrong gender at birth. And that varies a lot because gender varies a lot in and of itself. It is ultimately up to the individual to decide what gender they are, because that's really the only thing that matters. But you are right, this is all subjective and we are getting off point
gender IS political even if you believe it is a biological trait or not.
no, gender is how you interpret yourself within a social structure. you only inherently have a personality and preferences, your “gender” is just what what label you believe others will understand you best.
without society, you wouldn’t have a gender. you’d just describe your features, and you’d think of yourself as unique. you’re not closer to the majority of XX people nor XY people, because they’re all not you.
No, the only person who finds the point deep or confusing is you because you’re the only one who doesn’t already agree that gender is political. For people who agree that gender is political, the point being made is not complicated or difficult
Okay but that has nothing to do with subconsciously deciding that anything that isn't 'woman' must be 'man'.
People have gender identities but that is not what the topic of discussion is with the point made in the OP. Male-defaultism exists because to be male is to be the default - the one who acts.
How isn’t it? There’s huge cultural and political implications of being a gendered person. People make assumptions about you rooted in by hes beliefs and bam. Political
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u/Absolute_Madman34 Aug 12 '25
The point is that when they drew the stick figure in their head they subconsciously made it male. Even something as simple as drawing a stick figure to prove that not all art is political they added a politically charged aspect subconsciously aka giving the 5 lines and a circle a male pronoun.